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We're Finally Installing the Belichick System

Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:39 pm
For so many years, we've had to watch veteran players shown way too much deference by the FO.
All the while, their cap hits continued to grow out of proportion with their declining production.

Even the most unbending defenders of Payton and Loomis will admit that one of their biggest weaknesses come from holding onto veterans who bring leadership but take up too much room on the roster and cap.




What's happening now is difficult to be sure, but it's simply the only way to continue our success, which we've maintained for a pretty long time.
Belichick is the king of cutting beloved players who can't produce up to necessary levels.
It's time to get younger and faster, with small rookie contracts to boot.

Damn, it's nice to see a veteran coach like Payton still willing to learn and change and make difficult decisions for the better.
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:40 pm to
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but it's simply the only way to continue our success, which we've maintained for a pretty long time.


You will have a difficult time convincing people of that.

But, I am on board with all of these cuts. Excited to see what happens
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28419 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:41 pm to
It's not the only way, just a better way for long-term success. Im sure the team could have a successful 2014 season without the adjustments
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:42 pm to
Exactly and I have said as much a few times already. Payton has finally had it click that loyalty will eventually get you killed on the cap and in the end you can't keep everyone forever.

He has finally become Belichick.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:43 pm to
All the above.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:47 pm to
I said all season that Payton has been evaluating talent and strategizing.

Now we're seeing what he's been working on for 2 years.

We were too slow and too predictable on offense this year. Payton knows that and he needs young fast guys to mold into his playbook. Unless we give all of this work to Jimmy's pocketbook, next season should be a hell of alot of fun
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:47 pm to
Sometimes with Payton, you worry that his arrogance will get the best of him.

For example, we all saw that we needed to run more; and he would admit as much explicitly.
But we still didn't do it for multiple weeks.



It's important that he's able to adapt even after all the success he's had.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:52 pm to
It's like when Smith got hurt last year. I was super excited to see Junior playing more, figuring he would make more mental mistakes (he ended up with much better gap integrity than Smith has ever had) and more big plays (obviously was the case). I think we're going to see that next season. Ingram and Khiry aren't going to be as smart blocking rushers/recognizing the blitz as Sproles and PT, but I think that they're going to provide some more big plays and do a good job wearing down defenses as the game goes on. Whichever youngin replaces Moore may not have the chemistry early on that he had with Brees in settling into zones, but newbie will be much more effective making plays once they have the ball in their hands and probably do a better job getting open in man coverage. A rookie center could have some growing pains, but will almost certainly be more physical than DLP.

I can see kind of an inverse of last season: an ugly loss or two early on while we develop chemistry, but finishing on a really strong note. Hopefully we get an easy schedule early on. The AFCN is getting pretty ugly and those should all be done by week 8 or so, which is good.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:52 pm to
Sometimes I think it's less arrogance and more being to close to see the big picture and getting caught up in the moment.

I think he needs someone to get on his arse when he's fricking up because I honestly think he's to close to see when it's happening. And we all know Carmichael is not that guy.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:53 pm to
The schedule in general should be MUCH easier than this brutal-arse season.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:55 pm to
I for one, got revitalized in my saints fandom and excitement today.

We coulda sat on drew and all these vets for the rest of his career and made a couple of playoff birth but we would have never gotten back close to a SB

This shows the determination to win the big one.


AND now this offseason is going to be exciting as hell
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:56 pm to
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ewbie will be much more effective making plays once they have the ball in their hands and probably do a better job getting open in man coverage. A rookie center could have some growing pains, but will almost certainly be more physical than DLP.


100% agree with both of these. Brees got sacked 37 times last season. 10 more times than any other season in his career. First and foremost we need to fix our oline.

quote:

I can see kind of an inverse of last season: an ugly loss or two early on while we develop chemistry, but finishing on a really strong note. Hopefully we get an easy schedule early on. The AFCN is getting pretty ugly and those should all be done by week 8 or so, which is good.


Definitely agree with this as well. We'll have some early season learning curve issues but we have for the first time in a while our top draft pick this year. So we could get some smart good young talent and catch fire at the end of the season.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:57 pm to
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AND now this offseason is going to be exciting as hell


frick yes it is
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:57 pm to
I think the NFCN will be tough (not as bad as the west), but we do get pretty much all of the toughest opponents at home. Switch the Vikings (home) for the Lions (away) and that would have been the case.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:58 pm to
The main problem is that he waited a couple of years too long, and now all of the sudden, it seems drastic, when in actuality, like 2 or 3 of these guys were just coming up on their time.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:06 pm to
I will admit though, shopping Moore, Thomas, AND Sproles all at once took me by surprise.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:08 pm to
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The main problem is that he waited a couple of years too long

At least he's doing it. He easily couldve decided to keep Moore, Harper, Sproles, Vilma another year or 2

Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:09 pm to
I think that was just leaked last minute to get word out that they were about to be cut anyway.

They likely started shopping each one when they refused pay cuts or cheap extensions.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25208 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:11 pm to
I agree with you but I thought of this when I saw this
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:17 pm to
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