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I want Putin to win but not hurt Obama in doing it.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:04 pm
I actually hope that Putin as a former member of the communist party does well and takes control over Ukraine. It doesn't have to be like total control but make Ukraine a client state or puppet state.
I agree that the former USSR with the exception of the Baltics--since they were invaded in 1940 and independent from 1917 to 1940--should be under a Russian sphere of influence. There is no reason for Russia and the US to be enemies. I mean who really gives a shite about Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan etc.
Russia was on the side of the allies in WWI and WWII and we have common interests with Russia in containing China in the North Pacific and in stomping out Islamic fundamentalism in Central Asia and Afghanistan.
I agree that the former USSR with the exception of the Baltics--since they were invaded in 1940 and independent from 1917 to 1940--should be under a Russian sphere of influence. There is no reason for Russia and the US to be enemies. I mean who really gives a shite about Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan etc.
Russia was on the side of the allies in WWI and WWII and we have common interests with Russia in containing China in the North Pacific and in stomping out Islamic fundamentalism in Central Asia and Afghanistan.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 8:05 pm
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:05 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Really lame troll even for you. 
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:06 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I mean who really gives a shite about
Communists and Ralph Wiggum
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:06 pm to Gray Tiger
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Really lame troll even for you.
yeah so are willing to go to war over the Ukraine?
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:08 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
I assume you have never read one...not a single fricking one....history book on the brutality of Russia and how it treated the people of these coutries you dont give a shite about. I dont know where to start trying to explain to you how dumb you are. I just have to pray this is a complete TROLL! The fact that people like you have the right to vote, makes me want to water board myself.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:12 pm to Abikaasa_Posti_Teel
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I assume you have never read one...not a single fricking one....history book on the brutality of Russia and how it treated the people of these coutries you dont give a shite about. I dont know where to start trying to explain to you how dumb you are. I just have to pray this is a complete TROLL! People like you have the right to vote makes me want to water board myself.
This is not a troll. For a few centuries now Ukraine has been part of a Russian empire or Soviet Union. It's their sphere of influence just as the Caribbean and Central America is ours. They would never question our invasions of Panama and Granada. They know that when Castro falls Cuba will ours again.
Let Putin have this.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:12 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Why don't you want to hurt Ogump? He's an imperialist capitalist stooge.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:13 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Why don't you want to hurt Ogump? He's an imperialist capitalist stooge.
Yes, but socialists in this country want Obama to be "successful" since we feel that influencing the Democratic Party is out best chance for socialism.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:17 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
"let him have this"....are you serious???....do you know how important that port is?
If you think Putin only wants to take back what is his so to speak,you are sadly mistaken. He wants to push his empire as far as he can, and will do it in baby steps. I hope you are around 15 to 17 years old. Please God.
If you think Putin only wants to take back what is his so to speak,you are sadly mistaken. He wants to push his empire as far as he can, and will do it in baby steps. I hope you are around 15 to 17 years old. Please God.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:21 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:24 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
I think a gulag system would be a nice step too. Maybe a few man-made famines and some mass executions. I miss the old days too. 
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:25 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Kindly die in a fire
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:25 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Hook is showing
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:27 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
I actually hope that Putin as a former member of the communist party does well and takes control over Ukraine. It doesn't have to be like total control but make Ukraine a client state or puppet state.
I agree that the former USSR with the exception of the Baltics--since they were invaded in 1940 and independent from 1917 to 1940--should be under a Russian sphere of influence. There is no reason for Russia and the US to be enemies. I mean who really gives a shite about Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan etc.
by that logic, i assume you wouldn't mind the russians rolling into poland and taking over.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:29 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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by that logic, i assume you wouldn't mind the russians rolling into poland and taking over.
He would not....
He is simple
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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by that logic, i assume you wouldn't mind the russians rolling into poland and taking over.
I wrote that he should have influence over the former USSR with the exception of the Baltics. Poland is in NATO. Putin won't invade a NATO country. We have a deal with Russia that goes back to Bush I. No former part of the USSR with the exception of the Baltics will ever be in NATO.
If he wants to push around Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan and others it's no big deal to us. Name one strategic interest we have in Ukraine? We have a NATO ally in Turkey to keep the Russia black sea fleet contained.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:38 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:42 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I wrote that he should have influence over the former USSR with the exception of the Baltics. Poland is in NATO. Putin won't invade a NATO country. We have a deal with Russia that goes back to Bush I. No former part of the USSR with the exception of the Baltics will ever be in NATO.
If he wants to push around Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan and others it's no big deal to us. Name one strategic interest we have in Ukraine? We have a NATO ally in Turkey to keep the Russia black sea fleet contained.
poland had been under russian control for much longer than it's ever been a member of nato
plus russia has a duty to defend its citizens and territory in kaliningrad, which is surrounded by hostile nato member states like poland and lithuania.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:47 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I mean who really gives a shite about Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan etc.
Maybe Ukrainians, Belarussians, and Kazakhs.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:53 pm to asurob1
Nice.
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