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Russian subs off US coast - Aug 2012
Posted on 3/3/14 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/3/14 at 11:44 am
I wonder why this close encounter hasn't gotten more media attention, especially with what's going on now:
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A Russian Akula-class nuclear attack submarine sailed undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for weeks, and was only discovered after it left.
The Washington Free Beacon has cited unnamed sources in reporting the incident, the second time since 2009 that a Russian submarine has sailed close to the US. The incident occurred at the same time as Russian bombers flew inside restricted US airspace, as Russia flexed its military muscle.
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 11:47 am to Palmetto08
I have an extremely hard time believing it went undetected... I have nothing to back that up, though.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:04 pm to rbWarEagle
We knew it was there.
Have little doubt about that.
Have little doubt about that.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:10 pm to asurob1
Russian subs patrolling our coasts. Russian war ship docked in Cuba. And now Russia is setting up bases in Cuba. Nothing to see here.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:10 pm to asurob1
quote:
We knew it was there.
Have little doubt about that.
no need to have any at all.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:12 pm to Palmetto08
Russian ships have visited Cuba several times over the years. We knew about the subs just as they know we have ours off their coast from time to time
Quit being dummies
Quit being dummies
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:34 pm to asurob1
quote:It's not as easy as you think.
We knew it was there.
Have little doubt about that.
The Gulf Stream hides subs very well, and modern (Akula) Russian subs are very quiet.
The kicker here is that Russia is incapable of consistently patrolling far from home. So they can do this every couple of years maybe. We, on the other hand, camp out next to Russia all the time.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:37 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Tigah in the ATL
I am going out on a limb and saying probably know what you are talking about.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:41 pm to flyAU
I do have some expertise in this topic.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:42 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
It's not as easy as you think.
The Gulf Stream hides subs very well, and modern (Akula) Russian subs are very quiet.
The kicker here is that Russia is incapable of consistently patrolling far from home. So they can do this every couple of years maybe. We, on the other hand, camp out next to Russia all the time.
Do Poseidons routinely patrol the gulf?
As I understand it, there's no sub that cannot be detected by them.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:44 pm to Tigah in the ATL
Whats better...to let them know you know they are there or to let them think they can have free range in the gulf?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:47 pm to upgrayedd
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Do Poseidon's routinely patrol the gulf? As I understand it, there's no sub that cannot be detected by them.
their sensors are the same as those on their p3 predecessor. in truth our effective tracking is done via a combination of that + several other more cost-effective means (and more generally-effective means as well)
we probably knew they were going before they left their homeport, and probably knew they left their homeport the day they did so
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:47 pm to upgrayedd
Poseidons are the old old missile subs (my boat was commissioned in the 60s and ran newer Trident missiles).
If you mean Gulf of Mexico, no. It's too far away and really too small.
All modern subs are very hard to detect. Think 5-10 miles detection range or less.
If you mean Gulf of Mexico, no. It's too far away and really too small.
All modern subs are very hard to detect. Think 5-10 miles detection range or less.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:49 pm to Tigah in the ATL
These Poseidons
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:52 pm to upgrayedd
the airframe is updated, the sensors and tactics are not
eta: just trying to say that we knew, but not because of ASW aircraft. it's possible that we used them to do some close-tracking at some point but there is no way they were our primary source of info on that patrol
eta: just trying to say that we knew, but not because of ASW aircraft. it's possible that we used them to do some close-tracking at some point but there is no way they were our primary source of info on that patrol
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:58 pm to 90proofprofessional
Thanks 
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:04 pm to Palmetto08
can we just blow up Cuba then problem would be solved IMO
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:06 pm to Col reb 2011
Naw man.
They have great fishing and can put out some good rum.
They have great fishing and can put out some good rum.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:07 pm to 90proofprofessional
did edit the post for clarity of what i meant if you wanted a bit more of what i meant i too have a great deal of very recently-gained expertise on the subject
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:27 pm to Palmetto08
quote:Did it have a magnetohydrodynamic (caterpillar) drive?
A Russian Akula-class nuclear attack submarine sailed undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for weeks,
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