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Guess it's not JUST the StG proponents that are unreasonable...
Posted on 3/1/14 at 8:28 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 8:28 am
First page of the Advocate this AM has EBRPSS Superintendent Taylor calling Bodi White's bill to create subdistricts "Jim Crow."
Funny, because LSURussian linked to a story from a year and a half ago where Taylor himself seemed to be suggesting a similar concept.
Funny, because LSURussian linked to a story from a year and a half ago where Taylor himself seemed to be suggesting a similar concept.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 8:38 am
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:06 am to udtiger
quote:Don't show your lack of knowledge while using me as a source of it.
Funny, because LSURussian linked to a story from a year and a half ago where Taylor himself seemed to be suggesting a similar concept.
The ONLY similarity between what Taylor proposed and Boss Hogg White's bill is the number 4.
Four attendance zones working with the parents in those zones to determine academic needs was Taylor's proposal.
Four independent school districts with each one having full control over the taxpayers' money is Boss Hogg's plan.
See the difference?
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:16 am to LSURussian
Sounds to me that the primary difference is that with Taylor's proposal, all those parents would have to come to EBRPSS; whereas with White's, they would be dealing with the Deputy Superintedent.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:28 am to udtiger
quote:If that is your interpretation, then you have serious reading comprehension skills issues.
Sounds to me that the primary difference is that with Taylor's proposal, all those parents would have to come to EBRPSS; whereas with Whites, they would be dealing with the Deputy Superintedent.
The important difference is the MONEY. Boss Hogg even said that yesterday: "What is important to me is how to divide the dollars equitably and decentralize the money," says White." LINK
He wants control of the taxpayers' money. He couldn't get it from the EBR school board when he tried to start a for-profit charter school with Lionel Rainey (the non-St George resident and fellow taxpayer pillager) so White wants a new school district where he can control taxpayers' money.
Boss Hogg is probably hoping more people will interpret his attempted money grab just the way you do. He's relying upon the low-information voter.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 9:30 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:34 am to udtiger
I have a question about unfunded liabilities? Would the new St George not assume those, whatever they might be? Is there a list anywhere of exactly what new expenses the taxpayers of the district would go on the hook for?
Another question-re land for new schools. The EBRPSB owns a lot of that land now-like the huge parcel in Jefferson Terrace it has held for 40+ years. How much will taxpayers be on the hook for to acquire new land at decent locations in the District?
Another question-re land for new schools. The EBRPSB owns a lot of that land now-like the huge parcel in Jefferson Terrace it has held for 40+ years. How much will taxpayers be on the hook for to acquire new land at decent locations in the District?
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:34 am to LSURussian
So, you don't believe that the money shouldn't at least be weighted in such a fashion that the majority "stays at home" for the subdistrict schools?
I think that a good formula would be that 75% of the money generated from within the subdistrict would stay in the SD, with the other 25% going to the EBRPSS for it to allocate as it determines need.
I think that a good formula would be that 75% of the money generated from within the subdistrict would stay in the SD, with the other 25% going to the EBRPSS for it to allocate as it determines need.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:35 am to udtiger
You don't have the in-depth understanding into the minds of Bodi White, Lionel Rainey and other SG proponents that Russian possesses. He has done extensive research and even developed models of their actions to accurately predict their motives and plots.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:37 am to Lsupimp
LSURussian has spoken on that. He's well informed on the City of StG effort.
If it breaks away, StG is supposed to pay these legacy costs; however, LSUR has noted City of Central has yet to pay these, despite promises to do so.
If it breaks away, StG is supposed to pay these legacy costs; however, LSUR has noted City of Central has yet to pay these, despite promises to do so.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:38 am to udtiger
quote:A false dichotomy question if I've ever seen one.....
So, you don't believe that the money shouldn't at least be weighted in such a fashion that the majority "stays at home" for the subdistrict schools?
What part of "separate but unequal is unconstitutional" do you not understand? Boss Hogg....
....knows what it means. He just doesn't care as long as he can pilfer more taxpayers' money.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:46 am to hawkster
quote:
You don't have the in-depth understanding into the minds of Bodi White, Lionel Rainey and other SG proponents that Russian possesses.
Why are you being an a-hole?
The St George organizers THEMSELVES have already spoken on the topic of legacy costs, jerkwad.
On their official SG budget website it says, "Excess revenues over expenditures (
) to be used to satisfy legacy costs and any bonded indebtedness." LINKThis post was edited on 3/1/14 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:46 am to LSURussian
Chill.
I am not accepting White's bill whole hog (hell, even the article notes it is short on specifics). But, it is a pretty good conceptual framework to work with for a solution.
I am not accepting White's bill whole hog (hell, even the article notes it is short on specifics). But, it is a pretty good conceptual framework to work with for a solution.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:48 am to udtiger
100 years from now St George will be remembered like the American Revolution. Supporters are patriots and the leaders will have Memorials on Bluebonnet and Burbank and shite.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:48 am to LSURussian
quote:
Why are you being an a-hole?
The St George organizers THEMSELVES have already spoken on the topic of legacy costs, jerkwad.
I must have missed their press release when they made it official that Bodi White would be given the checkbook, the credit card and the combination to the safe. Or did that only turn up in your modeling?
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:02 am to Lsupimp
quote:You've asked the Multi-Million Dollar question.
I have a question about unfunded liabilities? Would the new St George not assume those, whatever they might be? Is there a list anywhere of exactly what new expenses the taxpayers of the district would go on the hook for?
The only definitive thing we know about legacy costs is that the St George organizers can not legally promise anything. They have no legal standing to commit a future city for any costs.
The annual EBR pension obligations are over $90 million/year. How much of that does SG own? What formula should be used? Pro rata by population? Geographic area? Tax collections? A combination of the three?
EBR's road improvement's bonded indebtedness is over a half billion dollars. SG has benefited from those bonds. How much of the debt should they assume?
I don't know. I doubt if anyone knows at this point.
I do know when the City of Central was in its organizing stage, their leaders committed to paying their legacy costs. That was 5 years ago and they have not paid a penny. In fact, they are using the "those people who promised to pay legacy costs had no legal standing to commit this city" argument.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:07 am to hawkster
quote:Who is the leading spokesperson for the SG organizing effort? His name is Lionel Rainey. He's not even a resident of St George. But what he is is a business partner with Boss Hogg Bodi White.
I must have missed their press release when they made it official that Bodi White would be given the checkbook, the credit card and the combination to the safe. Or did that only turn up in your modeling?
Connect the dots.....or just stay willfully ignorant. The choice is yours.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:10 am to LSURussian
Russian,
Don't live in btr and woefully ignorant on the topic. Do people in the unincorporated areas vote in city elections? Or only ebr parish elections
Don't live in btr and woefully ignorant on the topic. Do people in the unincorporated areas vote in city elections? Or only ebr parish elections
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:13 am to Turbeauxdog
The only "city" elections are:
City Court Judges
Constable
Certain very specially drawn District Court judgeships
City Court Judges
Constable
Certain very specially drawn District Court judgeships
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:17 am to LSURussian
quote:
Who is the leading spokesperson for the SG organizing effort? His name is Lionel Rainey. He's not even a resident of St George. But what he is is a business partner with Boss Hogg Bodi White.
So, spokesperson + partnership with legislator = guaranteed unethical access to public money. That leaves a lot of dots to connect, but then again, I'm no Carl Spackler.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:17 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:They vote for the Sheriff, the Mayor-President of EBR Parish and all other parish wide offices, such as District Attorney, Coroner, etc.
Do people in the unincorporated areas vote in city elections? Or only ebr parish elections
They also vote for their CP councilman. For example, currently there are 7 of the 12 EBR CP councilmen who represent unincorporated areas of the parish, either totally or partially. Only 5 of the 12 represent areas exclusively within the BR city limits.
The current Mayor Pro Tem (the chairman of the CP council) is Chandler Loup. His district is almost 100% consisting of an area that would be part of the St George city.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:21 am to hawkster
quote:Yes. It's already happened at the state level.
So, spokesperson + partnership with legislator = guaranteed unethical access to public money.
Google "LR3 Louisiana state contracts." Better yet, here ya' go. LR3 stands for Lionel Rainey, III
quote:
That leaves a lot of dots to connect,
Not really. More like .-----------------.
Pretty easy.
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