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re: Guess it's not JUST the StG proponents that are unreasonable...

Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:26 am to
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:26 am to
Russian

You sound like your major objection is not the concept of St George, but more over who is in control. Because no one of sane mind actually thinks the current setup is working.
The government has set all kinds if rules which allows degenerative parents with degenerate kids to poison the population of the school system which actually punishes well behaved, respectful children.
If they school system and police system took care of the areas that fricking suck, then issues like th St George wouldn't become a necessity to try and make decent situations for families and CHILDREN.
Where did you grow up? And what school district were you in?
What is your solution besides bashing those who are taking huge risks to make a change?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36035 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:26 am to
Russian spouting BS again.

White is a state Senator who foesnt even represent much of SG but he is going to get control of SG school money?

Taylor uses the term Jim Crow and now it's Boss bodi White?

Who is talking about the issues?

And why shouldn't money be divided per student inside some formula like the state uses ? Their formula has been developed over time and seems to work?

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:36 am to
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Russian spouting BS again.
I see another Truth Denier has joined us.

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White is a state Senator who foesnt even represent much of SG but he is going to get control of SG school money?
He doesn't represent much of Louisiana either yet he funneled state taxpayers money to his business partner without so much as it even going to bid by gerrymandering the specs of the contract.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:36 am to
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Taylor uses the term Jim Crow and now it's Boss bodi White?


Yeah, this is getting very confusing. I'm picturing two white rednecks in a car with a confederate flag on the roof campaigning against Jim Crow laws?!?! Talk about mixed messages.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:38 am to
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gerrymandering the specs of the contract.


Gerrymandering??? Gerrymandering??? Don't talk about gerrymandering!!!!

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:48 am to
Jim Crow and Boss Hogg Bodi were made for each other....

Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:51 am to
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Pretty easy.


If it's that dirty and that easy, why bother with the SG movement at all? Apparently, powers much stronger than Bodi White are committed to giving Lionel Rainey lots of government money. Wouldn't these evil geniuses be smarter to just stay behind the scenes and rake in the dough instead of drawing so much public attention? Why limit their unmatched criminal expertise to a potential new city, when they apparently have the power and connections to loot the entire state treasury?

I also didn't see reference on Louisiana Voice as to how a state senator singlehandedly "gerrymandered" a Dept. of Economic Development contract, but I guess I need to do some further googling on that, right?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:53 am to
Keep denying it. It just make you look dumb.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:56 am to
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Keep denying it. It just make you look dumb.


Keep guaranteeing it. It confirms your obsession.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:59 am to
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It confirms your obsession.

You are as active as I am in SG threads.

The difference is I provide facts supported by links to news sources. You just make personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with you. Or you just make irrelevant sarcastic comments.

I can't recall a single post you've made in a SG thread that offers any actual factual data.

See the difference?
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:07 am to
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You are as active as I am in SG threads.


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36035 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:16 am to
No tell me how White who represents Central and parts of Livingston is going to get control of SG school money .

An earlier poster pointed out SG would expect budget control . Good point but you spout BS about White in reply.

White doesn't control Central school money and he can't control SG money either.

Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:24 am to
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Guess it's not JUST the StG proponents that are unreasonable... quote: I have a question about unfunded liabilities? Would the new St George not assume those, whatever they might be? Is there a list anywhere of exactly what new expenses the taxpayers of the district would go on the hook for? You've asked the Multi-Million Dollar question. The only definitive thing we know about legacy costs is that the St George organizers can not legally promise anything. They have no legal standing to commit a future city for any costs. The annual EBR pension obligations are over $90 million/year. How much of that does SG own? What formula should be used? Pro rata by population? Geographic area? Tax collections? A combination of the three? EBR's road improvement's bonded indebtedness is over a half billion dollars. SG has benefited from those bonds. How much of the debt should they assume? I don't know. I doubt if anyone knows at this point. I do know when the City of Central was in its organizing stage, their leaders committed to paying their legacy costs. That was 5 years ago and they have not paid a penny. In fact, they are using the "those people who promised to pay legacy costs had no legal standing to commit this city" argument.
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LSURussian


Can we prove the City-Parish has funded the pensions adequately to this point re: unfunded liability questions? I know the state has never funded their own employees' per the agreement. But has the City-Parish?

Interesting question...
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:26 am to
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doubleb


quote:

Guess it's not JUST the StG proponents that are unreasonable... No tell me how White who represents Central and parts of Livingston is going to get control of SG school money . An earlier poster pointed out SG would expect budget control . Good point but you spout BS about White in reply. White doesn't control Central school money and he can't control SG money either.


As if his own local government representative-Delgado-is Lilly white and pure as the driven snow...seems there are plenty of low information voters on both sides of the discussion. But let's only focus on one.

I wonder why that is? Hmmm.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36035 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:15 pm to
Instead of name calling I think the discussion should be about how a SG school district would function and funding and money should be on the table.

Don't tell me that an independent SG district can't work because Bodi White might steal the money.

That is absurd.

Tell me it won't dork, but give me a real reason and not BS.

Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1593 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:31 pm to
Quite the straw-man:
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As if his own local government representative-Delgado-is Lilly white and pure as the driven snow...seems there are plenty of low information voters on both sides of the discussion. But let's only focus on one. I wonder why that is? Hmmm.


While he certainly doesn't my help here, LSURussian himself linked to his own post from 2012 warning people of what a self-serving opportunist Mr. Delgado was and is. But regardless, Mr. Delgado's actions and agenda have nothing to do with Bodi White.

Believe it or not, while Baton Rouge has its own good ole boy network with crooks and thieves, so does the eastern side of the parish. And all things being equal, this is still Louisiana, where a hint of smoke means there's a fire when it comes to money and corruption.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:38 pm to
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While he certainly doesn't my help here, LSURussian himself linked to his own post from 2012 warning people of what a self-serving opportunist Mr. Delgado was and is.
Thanks. But you can't argue with GFunk's blatant stupidity.

In spite of me posting many times that I opposed Delgado when he was running, warned others on this board how slimy Delgado is and got made fun of for not supporting Delgado, gave campaign contributions to his council opponent and voted for his opponent, in GFunk's mind since Delgado fooled those sheeple and got elected and now represents my district, I'm somehow connected to him.

It really is useless to debate such people. That's why I've learned to just ignore his posts and not respond to them.

Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1593 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:39 pm to
Here's the text of the bill: LINK

Read and decide for yourself if this proposal would pass, function and provide for a better education for your children.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:48 pm to
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Here's the text of the bill:
Good info, thanks. I'm about to head to Alex Box for the LSU baseball game. I'll read it later.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:51 pm to
Don't waste your time. Here's all you need to know.

quote:

SLS 14RS-518 ORIGINAL Regular Session, 2014
SENATE BILL NO. 484
BY SENATOR WHITE
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