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Who would you vote for? (Oscars)

Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:35 am
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3232 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:35 am
If you were an Academy member, who would you vote for? (This is NOT a prediction thread, but more of a how you would fill out your ballot thing)

Best Picture
American Hustle
Captain Phillips
Dallas Buyers Club
Gravity
Her
Nebraska
Philomena
12 Years a Slave
The Wolf of Wall Street

Best Director
David O. Russell, American Hustle
Alfonso Cuaron, Gravity
Alexander Payne, Nebraska
Steeve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Martin Scorsese, The Wolf of Wall Street

Best Actor
Christian Bale, American Hustle
Bruce Dern, Nebraska
Leonardo DiCaprio, The Wolf of Wall Street
Chiwetel, Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave
Matthew McConaghey, Dallas Buyers Club

Best Actress
Amy Adams, American Hustle
Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
Sandra Bullock, Gravity
Judi Dench, Philomena
Meryl Streep, August: Osage County

Best Supporting Actor
Barkhad Abdi, Captain Phillips
Bradley Cooper, American Hustle
Michael Fassbender, 12 Years a Slave
Jonah Hill, The Wolf of Wall Street
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Hawkins, Blue Jasmine
Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle
Lupita Nyong'o, 12 Years a Slave
Julia Roberts, August: Osage County
June Squibb, Nebraska
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:35 am to
chris nolan

JGL


Jennifer Lawrence...
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112675 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:37 am to
12 Years
McQueen
McConaghey
?
Leto
Nyong'o
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:39 am to
I've never heard of any of these movies.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:40 am to
WTF is Nebraska?
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12664 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:48 am to
That's a lot of voting. I vote Gravity for best picture than hit the parties. Of course, i've only seen 2 of the contenders, gravity and the captain but will eventually watch most of them on dvd.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:52 am to
I haven't seen a single one of those movies.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 11:33 am to
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Best Picture
American Hustle
Captain Phillips
Dallas Buyers Club
Gravity
Her
Nebraska
Philomena
12 Years a Slave
The Wolf of Wall Street

Best Director
David O. Russell, American Hustle
Alfonso Cuaron, Gravity
Alexander Payne, Nebraska
Steeve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Martin Scorsese, The Wolf of Wall Street

Best Actor
Christian Bale, American Hustle
Bruce Dern, Nebraska
Leonardo DiCaprio, The Wolf of Wall Street
Chiwetel, Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave
Matthew McConaghey, Dallas Buyers Club

Best Actress
Amy Adams, American Hustle
Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
Sandra Bullock, Gravity
Judi Dench, Philomena
Meryl Streep, August: Osage County

Best Supporting Actor
Barkhad Abdi, Captain Phillips
Bradley Cooper, American Hustle
Michael Fassbender, 12 Years a Slave
Jonah Hill, The Wolf of Wall Street
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Hawkins, Blue Jasmine
Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle
Lupita Nyong'o, 12 Years a Slave
Julia Roberts, August: Osage County
June Squibb, Nebraska
None
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted by The_Man_of_Steel
Member since Jan 2014
289 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Best Picture
The Wolf of Wall Street



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Best Director
Martin Scorsese, The Wolf of Wall Street


Almost by default. Stepped out of his comfort zone for this, but the real genius behind this movie was the writer (Winter) and the actors. Speaking of which...

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Best Actor
Leonardo DiCaprio, The Wolf of Wall Street



And this really shouldn't be a debate. Year in and year out, Leo turns in an amazing performance no matter what. I know people say Daniel-Day Lewis is the best actor going, but really? The guy does a movie every 3-5 years. Leo does 2-3 a year and he nails every single role.

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Best Actress
Amy Adams, American Hustle



Jesus women can't act. I know that sounds sexist, but frick me, this is a bad list. I'll give it to Amy moreso for her work the entire year, but frick this is a weak category.

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Best Supporting Actor
Jonah Hill, The Wolf of Wall Street



Really impressed by his work here. Another strong category. But The Wolf was the best film from 2013 and it was due to writing and acting and Jonah was a big part of that.

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Best Supporting Actress
Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle



Did I already mention women can't act? frick it, just give it to J-Law.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:18 pm to
Unfortunately, I haven't see all the movies, so I can't actually make a judgment.

But I will say that American Hustle and Wolf are a cut above of Captain Phillips, so Captain Phillips is definitively a no.

The rest I want to see, but never got a chance to. I'll have to check them out when they come out on BluRay.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:20 pm to
Gravity really is a monumental achievement. It bridged gaps, was a unique experience and was simply amazing. WoWS was just a great "American film." Not sure which way I go on this. Heck I even want to vote for Her.

Cuaron should walk away with Director, no matter what. There was no better representation of singular vision on film than Gravity. Maybe not even in the last 20 years. It would be criminal for him not to win.

In terms of the acting Oscars. MM, should win actor no doubt. Best Actress and Supporting Actress are just ugh...probably because I haven't seen Blue Jasmine. So I'll go with the predictions on this and assume Blanchett is better than the rest that i did see and I did not find worth.

Jonah Hill's performance was much like Joaquin Phoenix's in Gladiator...just made me feel dirty watching him. Which means he succeeded. Well done.

Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:23 pm to
Can't say, as I haven't seen any of these.
Posted by The_Man_of_Steel
Member since Jan 2014
289 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:32 pm to
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Gravity really is a monumental achievement. It bridged gaps, was a unique experience and was simply amazing


Not really. It was a decently pretty movie, but had half a plot and nothing resembling character development. Not to mention that it insults a viewer's intelligence with all of its inconsistencies and lies.

Pretty movie, but outside of being pretty it was crap. Avatar was much better film and I haven't met anyone who thinks that Avatar should have been anywhere near Best Picture.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51296 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:47 pm to
Very few posters on here have probably seen all of those movies, so most of us can't give a truly educated answer.

However, I will predict even though you said no predictions.

Best Picture
12 Years A Slave

Best Director
Steeve McQueen

Best Actor
Matthew McConaghey (This one shouldn't even be a debate. He nailed this role and blew anything Leo has ever done out of the water)

Best Actress
Amy Adams

Best Supporting Actor
Jared Leto (Once again, I think he wins this easily)

Best Supporting Actress
Jennifer Lawrence

Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36221 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:47 pm to
12 Years
Steve McQueen
Chiwetel Ejiofor
Cate Blanchett
Jared Leto
Lupita Nyong'o
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Not really. It was a decently pretty movie, but had half a plot and nothing resembling character development. Not to mention that it insults a viewer's intelligence with all of its inconsistencies and lies.


Going to have to disagree.

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Pretty movie, but outside of being pretty it was crap. Avatar was much better film and I haven't met anyone who thinks that Avatar should have been anywhere near Best Picture.


There's a difference in intention, which is a big part of how good a film really is.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:08 pm to
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I haven't seen a single one of those movies.



I have only seen 5 of them:
Gravity
Wolf of Wall Street
Her
American Hustle
Captain Phillips

Out of those 5 I would probably go with:
Gravity
David O. Russell, American Hustle
Christian Bale, American Hustle
Amy Adams, American Hustle
Barkhad Abdi, Captain Phillips
Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle
Posted by The_Man_of_Steel
Member since Jan 2014
289 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:09 pm to
For all of its simplicities and cliches, Avatar followed the very basic rules of storytelling: It had three defined acts and its character's motivations were clear.

Gravity didn't have a first act and barely had a second act. None of the motivations made any sense. Sandra's character never would have made it to space with all of her psychological issues. NASA isn't going to spend billions on a mission to send a woman with depression issues up into space. Why is she up there anyways? Why her? Why doesn't Clooney's character know much of anything about her? It's like they just met at a diner 10 minutes before the movie started. There is no development on either of them.

At least Avatar told us why Jake was going to Pandora. It told us why humanity went there. It told us why there was a military presence was there. Outside of Michelle Rodriguez's character, everyone's motivations made sense. The story within itself made sense. We had every bit of information we needed as an audience to process what we were seeing and experiencing on screen.

Gravity didn't give that to us... at least not to me. The biggest mistake Gravity made was assuming I would care about Sandra after shite hit the fan when they gave me no reason to care about her until after shite hit the fan. You build up your audience surrogates/protagonists BEFORE they engage in conflict, not after. At least try to make me give a shite about her ultimate fate. When she was barreling towards Earth (after apparently having everything she needed in space within 10 square miles), I really didn't care if she survived or not. At that point, the best and only redeeming part of the movie (the gorgeous visual shots of space and Earth from space) were behind us.

And before someone comes in here with that whole "rebirth" nonsense, please, cut the shite.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47740 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:27 pm to
Dallas Buyers Club
Cuaron
MM
Blanchett
Leto
Lawrence
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:34 pm to
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For all of its simplicities and cliches, Avatar followed the very basic rules of storytelling: It had three defined acts and its character's motivations were clear.


Again, completely disagree. It had elements of storytelling, but it's bloated so much that storytelling was undersold and unobtanium was oversold.

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Gravity didn't have a first act and barely had a second act.


The acts were quite clear. The first time the screen goes dark while she's spinning after the destruction. There's your first-second act cut. The Dream Sequence after giving up for death is the second-third act cut. It's quite clear what's going on. That's where the narrative shifts each time.
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None of the motivations made any sense. Sandra's character never would have made it to space with all of her psychological issues. NASA isn't going to spend billions on a mission to send a woman with depression issues up into space.


This isn't a motivation, a suspension of disbelief if you believe that people can't hide some of their inconsistencies, maybe.

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Why is she up there anyways? Why her? Why doesn't Clooney's character know much of anything about her? It's like they just met at a diner 10 minutes before the movie started. There is no development on either of them.


You're asking far too many questions about a movie that is tell you exactly what it is about. The answers are right in front of you. Maybe you just like bloat?

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At least Avatar told us why Jake was going to Pandora.


Because he is drift compatible? If it was "dumb" in Pacific Rim, it was dumb here too. And you have a problem with them sending depressed Sandra Bullock, but you don't with them sending depressed Jake? That makes no sense.

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The story within itself made sense. We had every bit of information we needed as an audience to process what we were seeing and experiencing on screen.



Yeah no. But this is not a discussion about Avatar. Where Avatar is bloated story telling Gravity is all about efficiency. You really can't compare the two, honestly.

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Gravity didn't give that to us... at least not to me.


Because you're focused on the wrong things. You're focused on the things the movie isn't telling you to focus on.
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The biggest mistake Gravity made was assuming I would care about Sandra after shite hit the fan when they gave me no reason to care about her until after shite hit the fan.


Again, this is being unfair to Gravity. This can be said for ANY movie if you really want to know their life story before the movie starts. This is never going to be true. You're going to know:

1) Some of their CURRENT motivations, NOT their life goals
2) Who they are
3) Where they come from
4) What's going on

Gravity did just that.
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You build up your audience surrogates/protagonists BEFORE they engage in conflict, not after.


No. You do these things simultaneously. Your investment increases as you learn more about that character. Now whether or not Sandra did this, is debatable, and probably personal.

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When she was barreling towards Earth (after apparently having everything she needed in space within 10 square miles), I really didn't care if she survived or not. At that point, the best and only redeeming part of the movie (the gorgeous visual shots of space and Earth from space) were behind us.


Let's go back to this:

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Gravity didn't give that to us... at least not to me.


You may not have connected with the film. Or Sandra Bullock, or her motivations. Or her goals.

But "to me," is important. You can dislike a film's emotions, but if you separate your personal outlook and connection from an evaluation of a film based on its own merits, maybe you can better understand why that happens. And maybe you can appreciate film whether or not you "connect" with it.

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And before someone comes in here with that whole "rebirth" nonsense, please, cut the shite.


Well, that's just being close-minded.
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