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re: Who would you vote for? (Oscars)
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:41 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:41 pm to Freauxzen
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The acts were quite clear. The first time the screen goes dark while she's spinning after the destruction. There's your first-second act cut. The Dream Sequence after giving up for death is the second-third act cut. It's quite clear what's going on. That's where the narrative shifts each time.
Look I get that you enjoyed the movie and all, but let's cut the crap.
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This isn't a motivation, a suspension of disbelief if you believe that people can't hide some of their inconsistencies, maybe.
What was her motivation for being there? Why did she agree to go? What is her purpose for being in space?
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You're asking far too many questions about a movie that is tell you exactly what it is about. The answers are right in front of you. Maybe you just like bloat?
I'm asking questions because it makes no damn sense. I wouldn't be nitpicking if it weren't being nominated for Oscars and having Hollytards calling it the best movie of the year.
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Because he is drift compatible? If it was "dumb" in Pacific Rim, it was dumb here too. And you have a problem with them sending depressed Sandra Bullock, but you don't with them sending depressed Jake? That makes no sense.
Well first of all, what the hell does Pacific Ri have to do with this?
Second of all, Jake was chosen because he is almost completely identical to his twin brother. His twin brother's DNA was used to create his avatar and the avatars only work for those whose DNA they have in them. Even then, it was a gamble.
Third of all, Jake wasn't depressed, he just felt he had nothing more to do on Earth. He was a soldier whose ability to be a soldier was taken away. Nothing left for him to do on Earth so he said frick it, I'll go.
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Yeah no. But this is not a discussion about Avatar. Where Avatar is bloated story telling Gravity is all about efficiency. You really can't compare the two, honestly.
Cut the shite. Gravity was a pretty movie with little plot or character development. It had the depth and plot development of your average comedy.
As for the rest of your post, I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you believe any of what you posted.
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:43 pm to bluestem75
McConaughey will win the Oscar for DBC, and will win Emmys later this year for True Detective. 
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:43 pm to oldcharlie8
American Hustle doesn't deserve a single oscar it's nominated for..no offense to Jennifer Lawrence. She was fine, but not Oscar-worthy, imo.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:30 pm to The_Man_of_Steel
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Almost by default. Stepped out of his comfort zone for this, but the real genius behind this movie was the writer (Winter) and the actors. Speaking of which...
How is WWS out of Scorsese's comfort zone?
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:47 pm to Freauxzen
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Cuaron should walk away with Director, no matter what. There was no better representation of singular vision on film than Gravity. Maybe not even in the last 20 years. It would be criminal for him not to win.
I haven't seen Gravity (stupid kid), but I'd love for Cuaron to win. I'm sick of them handing the best director award to some friggin' substitute teacher. Look, I liked the King's Speech, too, but giving Hooper the Oscar over a crop of Coen, Aronofsky, Fincher, and Russell was borderline obscene.
This is how Scorcese went 30 years before finally winning the award. For the love of God, give the best director award to an actual great director if you can. You can argue that this sin't Cuaron's best work, but there's no way we look back in 50 years and wonder how he won an Oscar. We will do that for Michel Hazanavicius. Or how Ang Lee won twice in 10 years (and I like Lee).
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:56 pm to The_Man_of_Steel
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but let's cut the crap.
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Cut the shite.
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As for the rest of your post, I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you believe any of what you posted.
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if it weren't being nominated for Oscars and having Hollytards calling it the best movie of the year.
Clearly you have an agenda and just don't care. Either that or you're just hating on Gravity because everyone loves it (which is probably what's going on); i.e. you're completely ignoring the story in Gravity for know reason but defending Avatar for almost the exact same thing.
See here:
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Third of all, Jake wasn't depressed, he just felt he had nothing more to do on Earth. He was a soldier whose ability to be a soldier was taken away. Nothing left for him to do on Earth so he said frick it, I'll go.
That's the definition of being depressed. It's pretty clear early on that Jake hated his life. Stone went because apparently she was the only scientist to complete the project and work on satellite (since NASA routinely sends specific scientists to complete tasks). Let's put it this way:
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Third of all, Stone wasn't depressed, she did feel lonely with the absence of her daughter. She was a scientist whose ability to be a scientist was what took her to space. She needed some time away from Earth so she said frick it, I'll go.
If you can't get that from the first 20 minutes of the movie, then I don't know what to tell you.
I can't convince you of things you will deliberately ignore for arbitrary reasoning.
Let's just agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:06 pm to Baloo
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I haven't seen Gravity (stupid kid),
IMAX 3D is the way to see it. It should come out again right after the Oscars I think.
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but I'd love for Cuaron to win. I'm sick of them handing the best director award to some friggin' substitute teacher. Look, I liked the King's Speech, too, but giving Hooper the Oscar over a crop of Coen, Aronofsky, Fincher, and Russell was borderline obscene.
Agree.
He's the only one that took a real chance this year, and actually more of the BP's this year than last. Gravity was an exercise in great film-making. It was risky, it was brilliant, most of all, it was unique. And that's something we don't get often.
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This is how Scorcese went 30 years before finally winning the award. For the love of God, give the best director award to an actual great director if you can. You can argue that this sin't Cuaron's best work, but there's no way we look back in 50 years and wonder how he won an Oscar.
Yeah he didn't have the support when Children of Men came out.
Given his early body of work, he'll win one eventually. I really think he has it this year (unless the Academy plays its game to a ridiculous level), they give 12 Years a Slave Best Picture, to make their statement and play to the public sympathy, and give Cuaron Best Director for really connecting film to audiences. No film did it better than Gravity this year (or last year, or the year before).
I mean their awards are often not really for quality or "importance" anyway. They are about capturing a moment, giving respect to cultural and pop culture celebrations/ideas/events, and patting themselves on the back. If he doesn't win, oh well, Gravity already has a good award cabinet locked away.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:09 pm to Freauxzen
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over a crop of Coen, Aronofsky, Fincher, and Russell
And they didn't even nominate Nolan for Inception...
Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:21 pm to bluestem75
DBC
Gravity Director
Matt McG DBC
Amy Adams
Jared Leto
Lup Ny
Gravity Director
Matt McG DBC
Amy Adams
Jared Leto
Lup Ny
Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:22 pm to bluestem75
I've seen all the best picture nominees except for Gravity so my voting would be as followed
Best Picture:
Dallas Buyers Club
Her
12 Years a Slave
Three best movies in my opinion, but would probably give nod to 12 Years a Slave
Best Director
Steeve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Best Actor
Matthew McConaghey, Dallas Buyers Club
Best Actress
Judi Dench, Philomena
I've only seen Philomena and American Hustle of these movies
Best Supporting Actor
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club
Best Supporting Actress
Jennifer Lawrence I guess
Best Live Action Short
Helium
Best Picture:
Dallas Buyers Club
Her
12 Years a Slave
Three best movies in my opinion, but would probably give nod to 12 Years a Slave
Best Director
Steeve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Best Actor
Matthew McConaghey, Dallas Buyers Club
Best Actress
Judi Dench, Philomena
I've only seen Philomena and American Hustle of these movies
Best Supporting Actor
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club
Best Supporting Actress
Jennifer Lawrence I guess
Best Live Action Short
Helium
Posted on 2/25/14 at 5:54 pm to REG861
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American Hustle doesn't deserve a single oscar it's nominated for
I disagree. Christian Bale was the by far the best part of that movie and is a damn good actor, but that category is so stacked this year.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 5:55 pm to TN Bhoy
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How is WWS out of Scorsese's comfort zone?
It's just different than most movies he has ever done before. More comedic, more satire, just a overall different vibe. Hugo was a big step out too.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:03 pm to Freauxzen
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Clearly you have an agenda and just don't care. Either that or you're just hating on Gravity because everyone loves it (which is probably what's going on); i.e. you're completely ignoring the story in Gravity for know reason but defending Avatar for almost the exact same thing.
I assure you that not everyone loves Gravity. Hollywood and its critical fanboys love it, but most audience members are meh on it. Believe it was given a B CinemaScore.
And I'm not defending Avatar. Neither of them deserved to be nominated for Best Picture. Special/Visual Effects without a doubt, but Best Picture? frick off.
Critics usually shite on SFX heavy movies just like they do for most comedies, but I'm guessing Cuaron is to Sci-Fi what Judd Apatow is to comedy.
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That's the definition of being depressed. It's pretty clear early on that Jake hated his life. Stone went because apparently she was the only scientist to complete the project and work on satellite (since NASA routinely sends specific scientists to complete tasks). Let's put it this way:
They made it very clear that Jake isn't depressed, he's more bored than anything. As for Ryan (Serious? Just call her Jill or some other actual female name), it was stated that she a medical engineer, but never says why she specifically was up there. They shite all over basic story structure in this movie for filler. Not to mention the horrible inaccuracies throughout the movie. Don't even get me started on the howling.
I enjoyed the movie, but when we are talking about the Oscars, we are talking about the best of the best. Gravity is more of a People's Choice for best sci-fi than Oscar for Best Picture kind of get up.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 7:13 pm to bluestem75
I just want to see MM win best actor so we can have an oscar speech starting off with " Alright alright aright."
Posted on 2/25/14 at 9:13 pm to The_Man_of_Steel
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I assure you that not everyone loves Gravity. Hollywood and its critical fanboys love it, but most audience members are meh on it. Believe it was given a B CinemaScore.
And I'm not defending Avatar. Neither of them deserved to be nominated for Best Picture. Special/Visual Effects without a doubt, but Best Picture? frick off.
Critics usually shite on SFX heavy movies just like they do for most comedies, but I'm guessing Cuaron is to Sci-Fi what Judd Apatow is to comedy
Your panties are in a wad about this. You just sound angry at a film that a lot of people enjoyed. Quit while you're ahead.
And I love this:
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I assure you that not everyone loves Gravity.
You're talking about a film that made 700+ million dollars worldwide. I'm not saying money = quality, but to say that no one likes it, that just shows yours prejudice against it.
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Not to mention the horrible inaccuracies throughout the movie. Don't even get me started on the howling.
Someone missed the point of the scene. quote:
I enjoyed the movie, but when we are talking about the Oscars, we are talking about the best of the best. Gravity is more of a People's Choice for best sci-fi than Oscar for Best Picture kind of get up.
And there's your problem. I used to be angry like you too. "Oh those darned critically acclaimed, well loved films winning Oscars!! It's about the BEST OF THE BEST! Only the top quality should win! The most influential! The best dammit!!!!"
The sooner you realize that the Oscars have nothing to do with the best films, the better you will feel. Leave it to the BAFTA's who have a much more unbiased view of film. Or the Film Critic circles. If you average out the Film Critic Circle awards, you'll have a better representation of the "best of the best," they aren't trying to make an award show or pat themselves on the back. They are far more objective in their approach.
But I'm assuming you don't want to do that this year either since 12 Years and Gravity split the critic awards almost down the middle.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 2/25/14 at 9:25 pm to The_Man_of_Steel
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The_Man_of_Steel
You have some time, one or two more stages to go:
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:35 am to bluestem75
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Best Picture
American Hustle
Captain Phillips
Dallas Buyers Club
Gravity
Her
Nebraska
Philomena
12 Years a Slave ( haven't seen but its going to win)
The Wolf of Wall Street
Best Director
David O. Russell, American Hustle
Alfonso Cuaron, Gravity
Alexander Payne, Nebraska
Steeve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Martin Scorsese, The Wolf of Wall Street
Best Actor
Christian Bale, American Hustle
Bruce Dern, Nebraska
Leonardo DiCaprio, The Wolf of Wall Street
Chiwetel, Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave
Matthew McConaghey, Dallas Buyers Club
Best Actress
Amy Adams, American Hustle
Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
Sandra Bullock, Gravity
Judi Dench, Philomena
Meryl Streep, August: Osage County
Best Supporting Actor
Barkhad Abdi, Captain Phillips
Bradley Cooper, American Hustle
Michael Fassbender, 12 Years a Slave
Jonah Hill, The Wolf of Wall Street
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyers Club
Best Supporting Actress
Sally Hawkins, Blue Jasmine
Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle( i guess)
Lupita Nyong'o, 12 Years a Slave
Julia Roberts, August: Osage County
June Squibb, Nebraska
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:56 am to Freauxzen
Geez man you need to get outside more.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:58 am to Ignignokt
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Geez man you need to get outside more.
What? I'm not the one getting all angry over a movie.Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:03 am to bluestem75
12 Years will win...I'd vote Dallas Buyers Club
Curaon
MM
Judi Dench
Leto
Jennifer Lawrence will win, I'd vote for June Squibb
Curaon
MM
Judi Dench
Leto
Jennifer Lawrence will win, I'd vote for June Squibb
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