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Supreme Court Ethics Act proposed

Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:21 pm
If the liberal justices on the SCOTUS were caught doing some of things that Scalia and Thomas had done the howls from the right would be deafening.

One would hope this bill will enjoy bipartisan support.

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A group of congressional Democrats is set to introduce legislation Thursday that would apply stricter ethical standards to the Supreme Court, amid concerns that justices have been engaging in questionable behavior.

The proposed Supreme Court Ethics Act of 2013 would subject the justices to the Code of Conduct for United States Judges, a set of standards that currently applies to all other federal judges. Those rules would have forced the justices to recuse themselves from certain cases or explicitly prohibited some high-profile activities that have attracted scrutiny and demand for reform in the past few years.

The controversy over Supreme Court ethics re-emerged late last month, when Mother Jones reported that Ginni Thomas -- a well-connected tea party consultant and wife of Justice Clarence Thomas -- held an integral role in Groundswell, a conservative coalition of journalists and activists that has been meeting privately to coordinate talking points and messaging on key political issues. The revelation led to a new round of questions about whether her brand of partisan activism should constitute a conflict of interest for her husband, who has been tasked with ruling on many of the issues that she is involved in.

Currently, the Supreme Court's system for dealing with conflicts of interest, or appearances of conflicts, is to leave it to each justice's own best judgment. In the past, justices have recused themselves from cases apparently because they held significant stock in a company before the court or when their adult offspring were professionally involved in the case. But Thomas took part in the Obamacare decision despite calls to recuse himself due to his wife's outspoken advocacy against the law.

Reform advocates have similarly noted that Justices Antonin Scalia and Thomas attended a Koch Industries fundraiser in 2010, just months after siding with the majority in the landmark Citizens United case, which effectively empowered the billionaire Koch brothers to spend millions of dollars in support of conservative political candidates.

The liberal Alliance for Justice has argued that the appearance of Scalia and Thomas as speakers at a 2011 dinner fundraiser for the conservative Federalist Society is reason for a closer look at Supreme Court ethics. Legal experts also questioned Scalia's appearance at a 2012 fundraiser for Friends of Abe, a group of Hollywood conservatives that has championed Republican causes and candidates.

The bill to be introduced Thursday -- by Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.), Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) -- will be the latest move to impose binding ethics rules on the justices. Murphy introduced a similar effort in 2011, when he was a congressman. Slaughter has been pressing the issue since 2011, when she and a group of 19 other representatives raised questions over apparent discrepancies in Thomas' income disclosure forms. In 2012, a group of congressional lawmakers including Slaughter asked Chief Justice John Roberts to voluntarily adopt the Judicial Code of Conduct. He declined.



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Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:28 pm to
That's a lot of words
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:28 pm to
Elena Kagan and Odramacare?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:29 pm to
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But Thomas took part in the Obamacare decision despite calls to recuse himself due to his wife's outspoken advocacy against the law.



Not quite as bad as Elena Kagan who helped to write the f'n law.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45797 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:31 pm to
Elena Kagan: The ObamaCare Recusal That Wasn't

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When the U.S. Supreme Court releases its decision on the fate of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Justice Elena Kagan will cast a vote that should not have been counted. The relevant rule requires that Supreme Court justices recuse themselves if in their previous capacity they served as "counselor or advisor" concerning a current matter before the Court, or if there is anything about the proceeding by which the justice's impartiality can reasonably be called into question.

Posted by ClydeFrog
Kenya
Member since Jul 2012
3261 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:34 pm to
Wasn't the California judge who ruled against Prop 8 gay? I'm sure you were fine with that but the butthurt is strong with you because Thomas' wife was opposed to the ACA? Come on now.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:35 pm to
Kagan should have recused herself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

If the liberal justices on the SCOTUS were caught doing some of things that Scalia and Thomas had done the howls from the right would be deafening.

kagan and obamacare?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:36 pm to
No judge is gonna recuse themselves on an issue like this. Too big of a policy decider.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:37 pm to
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Wasn't the California judge who ruled against Prop 8 gay? I'm sure you were fine with that but the butthurt is strong with you because Thomas' wife was opposed to the ACA? Come on now.



You're comparing apples to oranges.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:37 pm to
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Kagan should have recused herself.
Well you still prove your fricking hackish idiocy by stating if the Lib Justices did this......


Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

Kagan should have recused herself.
Where is the deafening howl you speak of? Dramatize much?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:43 pm to
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You're comparing apples to oranges.
A gay judge wouldn't have a vested interest?
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7850 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:44 pm to
Yeah Toddy is avoiding that issue but hey don't let something relevant get in the way of you bashing an African American judges wife. Racist and hypocritical
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:45 pm to
The ends justify the means.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:47 pm to
Toddy goes with the "whatever works" strategy in politics...except when it doesn't benefit his side and agenda. He's a true hypocrite.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:49 pm to
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quote:
You're comparing apples to oranges.
A gay judge wouldn't have a vested interest?


i think the recusal process for lower judges is different.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62376 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:50 pm to
Roberts should have recused his dumb arse on that one. Tax, my arse....Even Obama said it wasn't a tax...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:56 pm to
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Roberts should have recused his dumb arse on that one. Tax, my arse....Even Obama said it wasn't a tax...


20 years from now I still believe that Roberts will come off as looking like the evil genius to the statist left. Obamacare and the politics that surround it just needs time to play out.
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