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The Decline of South Park
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:05 am
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:05 am
Let me first say that South Park can have an occasional brilliant episode, and I think the 2008, 2009, and 2012 seasons have some of the best episodes, but the show has noticeably declined in the last 10 years.
I think it began with 2005, their best season and the one they won the Peabody for. But that Katrina episode ruined the fun of watching what current event they were going to skewer next. Everybody knew they would do an episode on Katrina so it kind of it took some of the surprise element out of it.
Since 2006, I can count maybe a dozen or so truly quality shows: Make Love Not Warcraft, Go God Go, More Crap, Over Logging, The China Probrem, Margaritaville, You're Getting Old, Reverse Cowgirl, Butterballs, Cash for Gold, A Scause for Applause, A Nightmare on FaceTime, and the Black Friday trilogy.
Now, that I think about it, 2012 was a great season. But this last season felt lacking.
I think it began with 2005, their best season and the one they won the Peabody for. But that Katrina episode ruined the fun of watching what current event they were going to skewer next. Everybody knew they would do an episode on Katrina so it kind of it took some of the surprise element out of it.
Since 2006, I can count maybe a dozen or so truly quality shows: Make Love Not Warcraft, Go God Go, More Crap, Over Logging, The China Probrem, Margaritaville, You're Getting Old, Reverse Cowgirl, Butterballs, Cash for Gold, A Scause for Applause, A Nightmare on FaceTime, and the Black Friday trilogy.
Now, that I think about it, 2012 was a great season. But this last season felt lacking.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 1:08 am
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:08 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
GTFO
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:11 am to John McClane
Didn't this last season feel like they were coasting by just trying to finish it? Same with the 2011, 2010, 2007, and 2006 seasons. You can maybe point to 1 or 2 episodes from those seasons that are worth DVRing. The rest are rather bland by 2005 standards.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 1:13 am
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:13 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
So South Park was fine until it did a Katrina issue?
Some of their best work has been lately - Medicinal Fried Chicken is one of the best political commentaries of current politics that everyone ignores.
Maybe if you aren't a libertarian you don't see how openly more and more libertarian they have become.
Some of their best work has been lately - Medicinal Fried Chicken is one of the best political commentaries of current politics that everyone ignores.
Maybe if you aren't a libertarian you don't see how openly more and more libertarian they have become.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:19 am to Libertyabides71
I'm fine with their libertarianism. It's their humor that's not as sharp and consistent. The best recent season was 2012 and the worst was either 2010 and 2011 maybe even 2013.. That kind of roller coaster of quality didn't exist back in 2000-2005.
There was what, 60 episodes between 2000 and 2005, give or take? I think about 40 of them are on my "must stop whatever I'm doing and watch" list.
There was what, 60 episodes between 2000 and 2005, give or take? I think about 40 of them are on my "must stop whatever I'm doing and watch" list.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 1:23 am
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:25 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
I go by the season number, the way their seasons are you seem to be numbering them wrong.
Season 17 (the current one) is 13 and 14 for instance.
They seem to be burnt out lately, I mean its been 18 months since the last episode I liked and its hard to believe they've done only about a dozen episodes since "A Nightmare on Facetime" which actually I can't believe came out in September 2012. Maybe you are right they are going down in quality, but I can't remember a gap this long with episodes.
What kept them from an episode all the way from Fall 2012 to Fall 2013?
14, 15, and 16 were solid. It seems 17 is taking forever and dragging. I wonder if they are intentionally trying to abandon South Park?
Season 17 (the current one) is 13 and 14 for instance.
They seem to be burnt out lately, I mean its been 18 months since the last episode I liked and its hard to believe they've done only about a dozen episodes since "A Nightmare on Facetime" which actually I can't believe came out in September 2012. Maybe you are right they are going down in quality, but I can't remember a gap this long with episodes.
What kept them from an episode all the way from Fall 2012 to Fall 2013?
14, 15, and 16 were solid. It seems 17 is taking forever and dragging. I wonder if they are intentionally trying to abandon South Park?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:29 am to Libertyabides71
Trey and Matt have started families. And they've hired full time staff writers. They cut down the season number to take more time off for their personal lives.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:32 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Season 17 is over if that is what you're asking. They're not going to do a second run.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:24 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Snuke was a great episode
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:33 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Show was always overrated in my mind.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:51 am to Libertyabides71
quote:
Medicinal Fried Chicken
Maybe the GOAT.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:25 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
I broke the Goddamn Dam 
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:39 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
quote:
Since 2006, I can count maybe a dozen or so truly quality shows: Make Love Not Warcraft, Go God Go, More Crap, Over Logging, The China Probrem, Margaritaville, You're Getting Old, Reverse Cowgirl, Butterballs, Cash for Gold, A Scause for Applause, A Nightmare on FaceTime, and the Black Friday trilogy.
Imaginationland???
I can't take anything you have said seriously if you do not consider Imaginationland a top episode in the last 10yrs.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 6:37 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
I do think that pumping out a show in 2-3 days has hurt it's quality.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:00 am to dawgfan24348
quote:
I broke the Goddamn Dam
No, I broke the dam
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:18 am to jmarto1
They always did that
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:33 am to jmarto1
quote:I thought that also but they have been doing that for a long time.
I do think that pumping out a show in 2-3 days has hurt it's quality.
I've been saying for a while that they peaked with Go God Go. The shows seem to try and do too much lately. Sometimes less is more.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:37 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Personally, I think last season was one of their best. Can't think of a real stinker among them.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:40 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
quote:
last 10 years
of course, most shows peak early and then keep going if they CAN. SouthPark has stayed relevant for a long time. The newest season wasn't that good, but they still make good TV.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:42 am to Libertyabides71
quote:
What kept them from an episode all the way from Fall 2012 to Fall 2013?
The Book of Mormon.
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