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LSU is as good as or a BETTER option than Texas A&M for a top WR.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:43 pm
Lots of folks talk about how A&M is the place to be if you are a WR: "They toss the ball at A&M"; "It's a wide open offense." Those folks may be right if a WR plans to be the third or fourth best WR on the team. Those tosses are spread among a bunch of players. That wide open offense does not benefit the top WRs at A&M. More to the point, the top two WRs at A&M are not more productive than the top two WRS at LSU.
If a player is a top WR, if he is projected to be the #1 or #2 WR on the team, he is just as likely, or even more likely to be successful at LSU. Under CCC's system, LSU's top WRs were as successful as or more successful than the top WRs at Texas A&M. And that's with a Heisman winning QB at Texas A&M.
Thus, if you plan to be the fourth or fifth WR on a team, Texas A&M might compare favorably to LSU in terms of production. However, if you are a top WR, if you plant to be a high draft choice, LSU is the place to be. Texas A&M offers no advantages.
If a player is a top WR, if he is projected to be the #1 or #2 WR on the team, he is just as likely, or even more likely to be successful at LSU. Under CCC's system, LSU's top WRs were as successful as or more successful than the top WRs at Texas A&M. And that's with a Heisman winning QB at Texas A&M.
Thus, if you plan to be the fourth or fifth WR on a team, Texas A&M might compare favorably to LSU in terms of production. However, if you are a top WR, if you plant to be a high draft choice, LSU is the place to be. Texas A&M offers no advantages.
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:44 pm to Salviati
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This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:46 pm to Salviati
LSU WRs run a complete route tree. They leave LSU very prepared for NFL life.
A&M WRs simply aren't prepared in the same way.
A&M WRs simply aren't prepared in the same way.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:46 pm to Salviati
Not to mention ATM sucks arse
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:51 pm to bencoleman
it amazes me that A&M gets a recruit to commit after the get off the plan in college station and look around at that shithole of a town and ugly campus.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:55 pm to bencoleman
Well they had Manzeil at QB so they ran the offense that fit him. Your going to be more wide open with him at QB. If they have a less talented QB this season they may get more conservative. Your offense is going to be more of a pro-set with a QB like Mett and more free wheeling with a QB like Manzeil. For a talented WR pretty much any top tier school or mid tier, or any NCAA school will work just as well. Some guys want to stay close to home and some want to move on and see other places.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:55 pm to dallastiger55
Bubble screens, seams, zone reads.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:01 pm to Salviati
You are correct. LSU runs a pro style offense. WR's are expected to beat their guy, and get open as well as block their guy. They develop WR's and get them ready for the NFL. Many times under a scheme offense the top WR will have 6 catches for 120 yards and all he did was run down the field and was open. Play calling is more important than talent sometimes in these schemes.
But at A&M the top WR is more likely to have better stats and more production. Its a toss-up at this point, if A&M's receivers flop in the NFL then we will have a recruiting advantage, if not, they will.
But at A&M the top WR is more likely to have better stats and more production. Its a toss-up at this point, if A&M's receivers flop in the NFL then we will have a recruiting advantage, if not, they will.
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:02 pm to bencoleman
A&M will be a huge threat for Lsu in recruiting. Most were to stubborn to realize it.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:05 pm to Salviati
It amazes me how anyone, ANYONE, would want to go to a school that has yell practices 
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:09 pm to Salviati
Honestly, this thread does nothing but feed the TAMU fans.
It does us no good. I understand your thoughts, but it will just attract a lot of TAMU trolls.
It does us no good. I understand your thoughts, but it will just attract a lot of TAMU trolls.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:18 pm to boxcar willie
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Well they had Manzeil at QB so they ran the offense that fit him. Your going to be more wide open with him at QB. If they have a less talented QB this season they may get more conservative. Your offense is going to be more of a pro-set with a QB like Mett and more free wheeling with a QB like Manzeil
You are aware that Kevin Sumlin is still their HC right? The same Kevin Sumlin that ran a wide-open, pass-heavy offense prior to getting to A&M, and prior to Johnny Manziel becoming his QB. A&M's offense won't be as productive next year, but the style is still going to be the same
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:26 pm to Salviati
LSU is the best place in the SEC for anyone to get drafted other than OLine and kinda linebackers but Chavis has been putting them in the nfl since he got here
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:33 pm to Duckie
quote:I hear you. However, in the land of sports, some memes spread like wildfire without much analysis. The idea that a top WR should go to Texas A&M rather than LSU is just one of them. The myth that a wide open offense helps a top WR's production is . . . a myth. In CCC's system, LSU's top WR had more receptions than A&M's top WR. LSU's top two WRs had more receptions, yards, and TDs than A&M's top two WRs.
Honestly, this thread does nothing but feed the TAMU fans.
It does us no good. I understand your thoughts, but it will just attract a lot of TAMU trolls.
A wide open offense like Sumliin's helps the bottom rung receivers. They get more targets, more yards, more TDs. So if a player plans to be a bottom rung receiver, he should go to A&M.
There's no reason for a top WR to go to A&M over LSU. But there are a lot of reasons for a top WR to go to LSU over A&M.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:35 pm to Salviati
We got cam. They don't. End of story.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:36 pm to Salviati
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There's no reason for a top WR to go to A&M over LSU. But there are a lot of reasons for a top WR to go to LSU over A&M.
Not really.
A good receiver will shine in either offense
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:36 pm to Salviati
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The idea that a top WR should go to Texas A&M rather than LSU is just one of them. The myth that a wide open offense helps a top WR's production is . . . a myth
Other than maybe A&M fans, who is saying top WRs should go to A&M over LSU or any other top program?
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The myth that a wide open offense helps a top WR's production is . . . a myth
Again, other that fans of a certain team, who is saying this? Evans and OBJ had pretty similar numbers. Any offense other than a straight option a good WR can put up good numbers with competent QB play.
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There's no reason for a top WR to go to A&M over LSU. But there are a lot of reasons for a top WR to go to LSU over A&M.
Now you are just being a biased fan. A top WR can flourish in either offense, so it boils do to what the kid wants. The state of Louisiana produces plenty of quality WRs and LSU has had success recruiting WR from out of state. We'll always have good WR, that's all that should matter to LSU fans.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:50 pm to Salviati
A&M didn't spread the ball around a lot. It was the Manziel/Evans show this year. A&M is going to put the ball in the hands of the playmaker every chance they can get. Speedy will get the ball a lot in his career, probably more than he would've at lsu.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:56 pm to Salviati
The thinking in this post is irrelevant in the mind of a typical WR recruit. They see that wide open offense, look at their own skillset, and it intrigues them.
Look, I know of the fact that we have put more WRs in the top 3 rounds of the NFL better than anybody else in the last 10+ years, but kids love trends. They love the hot topic, the flashy, the team that seems to be on the rise. Now that TAMU/Sumlin is in the SEC, they will be on tv all the time in an offense that will throw 35 times a game to 4-5WRs, giving them tons of opportunity to showcase their talent.
Sure we can do the same (showcase the talent), but the perception is different.
Look, I know of the fact that we have put more WRs in the top 3 rounds of the NFL better than anybody else in the last 10+ years, but kids love trends. They love the hot topic, the flashy, the team that seems to be on the rise. Now that TAMU/Sumlin is in the SEC, they will be on tv all the time in an offense that will throw 35 times a game to 4-5WRs, giving them tons of opportunity to showcase their talent.
Sure we can do the same (showcase the talent), but the perception is different.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 4:01 pm to CP3LSU25
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A&M will be a huge threat for Lsu in recruiting. Most were to stubborn to realize it.
it can easily go down hill. at their best they still lose 2 games a season.. they start losing 4 games a season with an unattractive place.. they won't hold up in recruiting.
baylor is the one right now getting the receivers as well.. but again that all can fall any moment. LSU sustains.. and Texas getting back on track will start to get some of that talent back.
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