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Male genitalia doesn't make a person male

Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:36 pm
So if a person is born a male with male parts but views himself as a woman, it's politically incorrect to say that he was born a man?

LINKhttps://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2014/02/06/leftist-academic-scolds-piers-transgender-tussle-likens-it-romney-bin

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MARC LAMONT HILL: ...[F]or me Piers, the bigger issue isn't the use of language. It's the fact that so much of the interview centered around the sensational aspects – about genitalia. There's so much more about trans life, trans experience, that I wanted you to cover.... MORGAN: No, wait a minute – wait a minute, okay?...I never mentioned her genitalia at all ever in either interview. You're the first to mention. I didn't mention this. HILL: Well, when you say – well, look, you alluded to it when we talk about – if you talk about surgery and when you talk about saying a boy until 18. It implies that she – her womanhood is attached to surgeries- AMY HOLMES: She had surgery! BEN FERGUSON: She was a boy! HILL: That was a very dangerous point- FERGUSON: She was a boy!... HILL: Trans identity does not hinge upon surgery. You can have a penis and still be a woman – a trans-woman. That's the point.





When one allows the Libs to drive the bus, don't be surprised when we all end up in a ditch. Crazy town!
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:39 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67083 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:38 pm to
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Male genitalia doesn't make a person male


I'm pretty sure that's the defining characteristic.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57956 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:39 pm to
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I'm pretty sure that's the defining characteristic.


Apparently not anymore?
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:40 pm to
gender =/= sex

ETA: i agree with the premise that a person born with a dick is a male. Whether or not they identify with being a male is a different story
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:42 pm to
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So if a person is born a male with male parts but views himself as a woman, it's politically incorrect to say that he was born a man?


So if a person is born with male and female parts but views herself as a man, it's politically correct to say that she was born a woman?

I would argue that sex is determined by chromosome analysis. XX=female XY=male.

Certain hormonal disorders in utero or in very young children can cause hermaphrotism, and it isn't always so easy to determinr the true sex.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39581 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:42 pm to
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Apparently not anymore?



Its the defining characteristic unless they have ovaries at the same time or other female organ/part due to genetic abnormalities.

But male/female as defined is about the existence of these physical parts that are easily understood.

Maybe some day in the future they may prove some type of "physical" cause via body chemistry or gene, but until then the definition based on physical properties stands.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14828 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:44 pm to
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When one allows the Libs to drive the bus, don't be surprised when we all end up in a ditch. Crazy town!


Please be careful. I would venture forth a guess that many of the posters that this board viewed as liberal view these things as ridiculous.

So, you have one guy who wants to be a girl and he has the right to go into the girls room so he feels better and makes the 150 girls who work there feel uncomfortable. I think many of the so called liberals on this board would say this is ridiculous.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:46 pm to
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liberal view these things as ridiculous


Every religious nutbag gets labeled as conservative. It's just the thing to do.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69297 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:47 pm to
Gender is not biological. The distinction between males and females is entirely a cultural one. For example, culture expects women to wear dresses and have long hair. Culture expects men to have short hair.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:48 pm to
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Gender is not biological.





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males and females is entirely a cultural one


uh....no
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39581 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:48 pm to
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So, you have one guy who wants to be a girl and he has the right to go into the girls room so he feels better and makes the 150 girls who work there feel uncomfortable. I think many of the so called liberals on this board would say this is ridiculous.



I do wonder how long until we have Trans-Men and Trans-Women bathrooms on top of the usual Men and Women. Or is the existence of the 3rd and 4th bathroom going to be discriminatory?

Yikes.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:49 pm to
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do wonder how long until we have Trans-Men and Trans-Women bathrooms on top of the usual Men and Women. Or is the existence of the 3rd and 4th bathroom going to be discriminatory?



separate but equal issues
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:49 pm to
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So if a person is born a male with male parts but views himself as a woman, it's politically incorrect to say that he was born a man?


If I'm not mistaken, male/female refers to the biological sex, while man/woman refers to the gender.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:50 pm to
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Male genitalia doesn't make a person male


Somebody better tell Nature that they fricked up big time.

Again, liberal stupidity at its finest.

Up is now down.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:52 pm to
So someones gotta help me here. Are they saying their is a stereotypical male and female in which transgenders associate themselves as? If not basing it on genitalia, I'm going to start calling all transgenders sexist.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32242 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:59 pm to
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So if a person is born with male and female parts but views herself as a man, it's politically correct to say that she was born a woman?

It would be correct to say that the child was born with ambiguous genitalia

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:59 pm to
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When one allows the Libs to drive the bus, don't be surprised when we all end up in a ditch. Crazy town!


Who cares. the point is moot.

If a trans wants to be called a she, and considers herself a girl, frick it no skin off my back. Just be civil.

Its amazing how people can't just be civil.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32242 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:01 pm to
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the point is mute.
Silent?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:01 pm to
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MARC LAMONT HILL


This fricker does not get the priviledge of deciding to change the meaning of well defined words in our common lexicon. frick him and every other liberal POS that does this. The assault on language, and the thoughts that are associated with the meaning of words, is just getting out of hand.

Political correctness is OUT OF CONTROL. What will it take to turn the tide?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:03 pm to
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the point is mute.
Silent?


Is moot the right word? I may have just learned something
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