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TX Grand Jury Refuses To Indict Homeowner Defending House From Thug POS

Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:51 pm to
God bless america for shooting and killing a police officer? You're sick.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:52 pm to
I don't think you've followed this story very well

The police officers set up a no-knock raid that was totally unnecessary and the guy shot the cop that set it up in self-defense

edit: In other words, God Bless America for still allowing people to defend themselves from certified Thug POSes even if aforesaid Thug POSes are cops
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:53 pm to
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there is no need to enforce it by breaking down people's doors while they are sleeping, a tactic that inevitably results in tragedies like this one.


Truth.

And it is about time that police got some blow-back from acting in every way like a criminal except possesing a few pieces of paper and a oddly shaped piece of tin.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:55 pm to
I agree with the verdict, but "god bless america"?. It's a tragedy, not a warrant to celebrate anarchy.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:56 pm to
I edited after you posted this -- as noted, God Bless America for still allowing people to defend themselves and their homes against this BS
Posted by wilfont
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:56 pm to
Article doesn't give a great deal of information. We know the homeowner was growing weed but was he considered dangerous prior to breaking into his home? Does he have a history of violence?

Why not knock on the door and execute the search warrant when someone answered?
Posted by Vrai
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:57 pm to
Yes, God bless America, where we still obviously have the right to defend our home from stupid motherfrickers busting down the door, unannounced, in the middle of the night.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:57 pm to
Granted I don't share the same amount of enthusiasm as you do, but it sounds like the grand jury is right in this situation. I would like to know more details about the time and how many officers were there.


Posted by MagicCityBlazer
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:58 pm to
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. It's a tragedy, not a warrant to celebrate anarchy.



Anarchy isn't when the police break into someone's home like it is a war zone guns up and out and with no identification or warning.

The homeowner was completely within his right to shoot the robbers that were there to kidnap him. If they had knocked loudly and identified themselves I'm not sure this murder would have had to happen.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:01 pm to
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This week a Texas grand jury declined to indict a marijuana grower for shooting and killing a sheriff's deputy who burst into his home in the early morning to execute a search warrant.


Seems like this could have all been avoided if the cop would have taken a different approach.

How about knocking on the door? Maybe making a phone call? Meeting him at his work place?
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:05 pm to
He had a felony and misdemeanor drug conviction before, but no history of violence and all his guns were legally owned. Aside from growing a few plants the feds don't want people growing he was pretty much a law-abiding citizen.

This article has more info about the case if people haven't followed it before now. I think I remember there being a thread on here when the shooting happened back in December but I could be misremembering
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:06 pm to
I wonder if PB would feel the same if the shooter was a heroin dealer with a previous record a mile long.


Just askin...
Posted by wilfont
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:08 pm to
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He had a felony and misdemeanor drug conviction before, but no history of violence and all his guns were legally owned.

Thanks for the info. Seems like this should have been handled in an entirely different manner.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

felony and misdemeanor drug conviction before
quote:

his guns were legally owned
Didn't think that was possible.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:11 pm to
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anarchy.


I don't think that means what you think it means.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Meeting him at his work place?

I think they were.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:16 pm to
Sucks someone died, but thats what you get with these idiotic no knock raids for minor crimes

The Grand Jury made the right call
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:18 pm to
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Didn't think that was possible.

Neither did I 'til I read the article. They don't explain how (and I wouldn't expect the reporter to know how).

To be clear, the defense attorney for the shooter said they were legally owned, but the original warrant said there were "possibly" stolen guns and I'm figuring if they were actually illegally owned that he wouldn't have gotten off the hook. The article would have definitely said they were illegally owned if they were

edit: Basically the prosecution didn't contradict the claim that they were legally owned, and I don't think they'd have been that inept in investigating the legality of the gun ownership if the original warrant suggested they might be illegally owned. So I'm assuming they were in fact legally owned
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 3:20 pm
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:21 pm to
The guns could have been legally owned by the girlfriend.
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