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don't put the blame on the refs, poor defense

Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by LSU Jock 1970
Member since Aug 2011
418 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:08 am
Quit blaming someone else. That was poor defense, too much dribble penetration. More games will be lost if the other team shoots all night from the paint.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:09 am to
Poor defense begat bad calls which begat even worse defense.

The players effort and the refs can both share in the blame.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17180 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:12 am to
With no fouling at the end of the game the foul totals were 33 vs. 18.

Quite the spread there.
Posted by LSU Jock 1970
Member since Aug 2011
418 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:12 am to
those were fouls. The team will not get better if they don't correct what happened last night.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:13 am to
The refs deserve part of the blame. There are a number of reasons we lost, and they are part of it.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:13 am to
Officiating wasn't good, but UGA was definitely the more aggressive team.

They lived in the paint, nothing but good things were going to happen.

Refs were definitely not the cause for the loss.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

those were fouls


Not all of them were fouls. And some of the fouls on LSU apparently weren't fouls on Georgia.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:15 am to
Worst defensive effort I've seen from a basketball team in quite some time - at any level. Amazing how they played so well defensively the last few games. Having JobIII in foul trouble was a killer. He could not play aggressive the entire night. We'll be all right. Just stay out of foul trouble. To end on a positive I thought guards played very, very well.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6186 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:18 am to
quote:

With no fouling at the end of the game the foul totals were 33 vs. 18.

Quite the spread there.




would love to see the numbers of first half vs. second half
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15047 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Worst defensive effort I've seen from a basketball team in quite some time - at any level.

Has a lot to do with JOB getting 2 fouls in the first minute, and you could tell we were really surprised by that. Then our interior defenders started playing tentatively and looking to avoid contact (only to have a foul called anyway).
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:24 am to
I saw fouls in the second where I wasn't sure if we had even touched the Georgia player. When things are that bad, I'm not sure what you want the players to do.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Quit blaming someone else. That was poor defense, too much dribble penetration. More games will be lost if the other team shoots all night from the paint.


i don't think people are blaming the loss on refs. I think they recognize the officiating was horrible. Lsu probably didn't deserve to win the game, however, the officiating was the worst i've ever seen. I've never seen a foul called nearly every time down court. It was even worse when players are purposely trying to get out of the way, players with the ball are purposely jumping into people and leaning into people hoping for a foul. That's sad.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15047 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:27 am to
quote:

i don't think people are blaming the loss on refs. I think they recognize the officiating was horrible. Lsu probably didn't deserve to win the game, however, the officiating was the worst i've ever seen. I've never seen a foul called nearly every time down court. It was even worse when players are purposely trying to get out of the way, players with the ball are purposely jumping into people and leaning into people hoping for a foul. That's sad.

Right. LSU lost on their own merits but the reffing made the game nearly unwatchable - boring and slow.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16744 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Then our interior defenders started playing tentatively and looking to avoid contact (only to have a foul called anyway).


which is why we should have stuck with the zone defense. instead they drew guys like JOB out of the paint which further risked and led to fouls.

So i have two knocks on Jones for this game:

1- shoulda went back to zone to help with D in the paint and foul trouble (Georgia is worst 3-pt team in SEC!)

2 - Jones shoulda been the one climbing all over the refs for their calls even drawing a technical if necessary to fire up the team.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10210 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:40 am to
LSU should have been able to run UGA out of their own building last night and didn't. They've got to quit laying eggs on the road.

quote:

1- shoulda went back to zone to help with D in the paint and foul trouble (Georgia is worst 3-pt team in SEC!)


Agree but UGA shot pretty darn well last night too.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

1- shoulda went back to zone to help with D in the paint and foul trouble (Georgia is worst 3-pt team in SEC!)

Georgia hit 5-9 last night FWIW
quote:

2 - Jones shoulda been the one climbing all over the refs for their calls even drawing a technical if necessary to fire up the team.

Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:47 am to
We got destroyed in the paint, both offensively and defensively. Terrible showing, besides a few possessions.

They moved the ball very well and sliced our zone. We were very stagnant throwing up over 20 3pt attempts.

There are plenty of reasons why we lost, but agreed. I don't think we should put the blame squarely on the officiating, even though they were part of why we lost.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9500 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

much dribble penetration


Yeah because our players were scared to play D because they would get called for a foul.

JOB- Fouled out
Shavon Coleman- Fouled out
Hickey- 4 Fouls
Mickey- 4 fouls
Martin- 4 Fouls

UGA shot 46 free throws and had 32 points from them. The refs were terrible
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:53 am to
quote:

the reffing made the game nearly unwatchable


It really did.

I know a lot of people are saying SEC refs are terrible, but there are no SEC basketball refs. All of them are independent contractors, throughout the NCAA.

I'd like to see the SEC actually employ their own officials with the stated purpose of improving the quality of the product.

If they're going to tell teams to schedule better in the non-conference, then back that up with getting better officials for the conference games.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31735 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:55 am to
I completely agree that defense was lacking but seriously the difference in the FT attempts is absurd. UGA had 46 Free throws. they had 45 FG's attempted!!

Oh and UGA shot 60%
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 10:56 am
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