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What are ways to reduce my Reportable Wages?

Posted on 1/29/14 at 6:03 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 6:03 pm
If my wife and I both max out 401(k) contributions and still have reportable income putting us in the next tax bracket from last year, what are some ways to get us to the lower tax bracket? I also max out HSA contributions, and I believe she does too (we have separate insurance).
This post was edited on 1/29/14 at 7:26 pm
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2788 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 6:37 pm to
That’s a nice problem to have. The highest bracket starts at $457,600. I would consultant a professional. You can afford it and it will probably pay for itself. You already max out your 401K’s and HSA’s.

Do you have any investment income? Utilize capital gains and municipals for the lowest taxes. Start or buy a business that you can use to legally pay for your cars, vacation, and entertainment used as business expenses.

Increase your charitable donations. I recommend the PlanoPrivateer social aid and pleasure club.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16305 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 7:21 pm to
Nice subtle brag thread
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 7:24 pm to
Nah, I misspoke/typed. Not the highest, just the next highest from where we were last year.

Eta: I hope I have this all figured out by the time I hit the top income bracket.
This post was edited on 1/29/14 at 7:25 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 7:39 pm to
You could walk into your boss' office and tell him what you really think about him. That should do the trick.

Other than that, maybe buy a house and claim the mortgage interest. Giving money to charity reduces your tax bill but of course you're still giving money away, so that doesn't help you financially. I say that b/c I once had someone tell me quite adamantly that he was financially better off giving money to charity.

Maybe there are certain trust arrangements you can make as well but I'm not very familiar with them. I'd expect though that you couldn't benefit from the trust, but maybe your kids could. I think there are some educational tax-sheltered arrangements out there.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1028 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 7:48 pm to
I don't see how financially maybe karma-ly. Unless he was close to the next tax bracket and donating put him right under the bar?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 7:50 pm to
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I say that b/c I once had someone tell me quite adamantly that he was financially better off giving money to charity.




But by giving away the dollar, he's saving 40 cents on his taxes! How do you not understand that? :D
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:14 pm to
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Unless he was close to the next tax bracket and donating put him right under the bar?


Doesn't work that way. Suppose the bracket goes up at x dollars. You still pay the same tax on the first x-1 dollars regardless of what your final income is. It's just that you pay a higher income tax on what you make above x. Bill Gates' income tax bill on his first $40K of income is the same as Joe Blow who makes $40K all year. It's just that Gates would pay a greater portion on reportable income above that.

There are certain benefits to being under a given limit if it makes you eligible for certain things. For example, you can't contribute to a Roth if your income is above a certain amount. But you're still generally better off just raking in as much money as you can and to hell with the tax consequences.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:29 pm to
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Bill Gates' income tax bill on his first $40K of income is the same as Joe Blow who makes $40K all year


this was my understanding
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:35 pm to
And a lot of people don't get that

OMG I just crossed the next tax bracket. I wish I made less money

Pls
Posted by chuckitdeep
Member since Nov 2008
730 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:39 pm to
Thanks for the insight. Makes sense. Full steam ahead trying to stack cash.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:21 pm to
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this was my understanding





That's how it works. My personal favorite is I had a relative that turned down a promotion with additional cash because he "didn't want to end up paying more in taxes". You just want to smack these people, and hope some sense leaks in.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:31 pm to
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My personal favorite is I had a relative that turned down a promotion with additional cash because he "didn't want to end up paying more in taxes".


Not based on pure income taxes, but hasn't it been shown that there are negative affects to income increases somewhere between 30-50K?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15043 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Not based on pure income taxes, but hasn't it been shown that there are negative affects to income increases somewhere between 30-50K?


I think it is lower than that- as poor people come out of poverty they become eligible for fewer gov't benefits, thus making it "expensive" for them to hit certain earnings points.

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Unless you're thinking of something different.
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