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Is Dealer Cost different than Invoice Price for New Cars?

Posted on 1/29/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
953 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 2:26 pm
Looking at Will Cover rules for new car buying, it mentions "dealer cost". I looked at the normal car buying sites but have come up blank on the dealer cost.

Any ideas where this information can be found?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 2:38 pm to
As a customer you'll never know what the dealer paid for that vehicle or what kind of incentives they're getting from the manufacturer. There are several sources online that may get you close, hell they'll probably show you an "invoice" at the dealership but you'll never really know.


The salesmen doesn't even know
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 2:42 pm to
That is what I heard too.
I thought I remember seeing an area on a few sites that showed what others had paid for XYZ vehicle in certain areas. That may be a help too.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97632 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

I thought I remember seeing an area on a few sites that showed what others had paid for XYZ vehicle in certain areas. That may be a help too.



That's good info too, but you have to be careful cause we all know people lie on the internet
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
953 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 3:05 pm to
Thanks for the replies.

Maybe Will Cover will see this and explain what he meant.
Posted by geauxkw
bayou self
Member since Aug 2008
949 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 7:28 pm to
Most "s" plans go off of invoice. Dealers get incentives on volume...
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22815 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Looking at Will Cover rules for new car buying, it mentions "dealer cost". I looked at the normal car buying sites but have come up blank on the dealer cost. Any ideas where this information can be found?


To start I have never reviewed Will Cover's guide. Dealer cost typically refers to invoice. However the dealership usually gets it cheaper than the publicized invoice.

If you go to NADA website and look up new car prices and see invoice, it will match up with the "dealer invoice" 9 times out of 10.

If you are trading, use NADA website to get the value of the vehicle. The true value of the vehicle is the clean trade value. The dealer will hit you at rough trade value for your vehicle. Just know the clean trade is the true value and that is your bargaining chip.

This information is coming from someone who has worked indirectly with dealerships for quite some time. I do this for a living.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6851 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:35 pm to
It's been awhile, but I heard that dealer's have a holdback of 3% from the company which makes the vehicle. If they sell the vehicle within a certain amount of time, they get the 3% back. Thus, their true cost is actually less than the invoice price.
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3860 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:48 pm to
Edmunds.com

Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:59 pm to
Holdback is usually 2-3 percent less than invoice and varies with manufacturer. Edmunds.com has a helpful forum re prices. See the "Prices Paid and Buyer Experiences" forum.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119120 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:06 pm to
Yes, the holdback varies, and is between 2-3%.
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