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Bitcoin Firms Will Get Regulatory Framework in 2014

Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:56 am
As a compliance consultant it will be interesting to see how this develops.


LINK


Some highlights from Ben Lawsky's opening statements:

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“On behalf of the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), I’d like to welcome everyone to the first of two days of hearings on the regulation of virtual currencies.

“As you may know, over the last six months, our agency has been conducting an extensive inquiry into virtual currencies.

“We’ve had dozens and dozens of meetings with a wide range of industry participants. We’ve spoken to leading academics and law enforcement officials. And we’ve reviewed thousands of pages of documents, reports, and other materials.

“Today’s public hearing is the next step in that inquiry.

“Ultimately, it’s our expectation that the information we’ve gathered in this fact-finding effort will allow us to put forward, during the course of 2014, a proposed regulatory framework for virtual currency firms operating in New York.

“I believe we would be the first state in the nation to do so. Clearly, when it comes to virtual currencies, regulators are in new and unchartered waters.


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“Moreover, the Department of Financial Services – like many other state financial regulators – has a specific legal responsibility to license and regulate money transmission. And to the extent that some virtual currency service providers are engaged in money transmission, we do have an important role in writing and enforcing the rules of the game for financial firms.

“Our role is perhaps best described as that of a referee. We want to make sure everyone is playing by the rules and preventing misconduct, such as money laundering. But, at the same time, we also want to make sure that we don’t clip the wings of a fledgling technology before it gets off the ground. We want to make certain that New York remains a hub for innovation and a magnet for new technology firms.

“Indeed, virtual currency could ultimately have a number of benefits for our financial system. It could force the traditional payments community to ‘up its game’ in terms of the speed, affordability, and reliability of financial transactions.

“I think many consumers – myself included – are perplexed that, in a world where information travels around the globe in a matter of milliseconds, it can often take several days to transfer money to a friend’s bank account.

“Moreover, the open-source nature of this technology, relatively low (financial) barriers to entry, and nascent nature of this industry mean its constantly evolving.

The virtual currency industry – as currently constituted – may or may not ultimately see wide-spread adoption among the general public. It’s open for debate. There are, for example, serious questions about whether – given its volatility – it can serve as a stable source of value for transactions.

“But regardless of that, there might be – at the very least – a kernel of something here that has a profound impact on the future of payments technology and the financial system. That’s why we want to proceed without any prejudgements.


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“Right now, the regulation of virtual currency industry is akin to a virtual Wild West. (There is even a modern day Gold Rush among miners in the virtual currency community.) That lack of regulation, however, is simply is not tenable for the long term.

“Fashioning appropriate guardrails for virtual currencies presents challenging questions for regulators. Virtual currency is not easily categorized within the divisions we traditionally think about when it comes to the financial system (such as banks, insurers, or money transmitters). It’s neither fish nor fowl.

“And while we want to set up clear rules of the game, we also want to preserve sufficient flexibility given the constantly evolving nature of this new technology.

“That is, in part, why we’re evaluating whether our agency should issue a so-called ‘BitLicense’ specifically tailored to virtual currencies.


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“There is, we acknowledge, distrust among some in the virtual currency community about regulation. However, we believe that – for a number of reasons – putting in place appropriate regulatory safeguards for virtual currencies will be beneficial to the long-term strength of the virtual currency industry.

“First, serving as a money changer of choice for terrorists, drug smugglers, illegal weapons dealers, money launderers, and human traffickers can expose the virtual currency industry to extraordinarily serious criminal penalties. Taking steps to root out illegal activity is both a legal and business imperative for virtual currency firms.

“Second, safety and soundness requirements help build greater confidence among customers that the funds that they entrust to virtual currency companies won’t get caught in a virtual black hole. Indeed, some consumers have expressed concerns about how quickly their virtual currency transactions are processed. There have also been public reports of virtual currency lost – perhaps irretrievably – through hacking and other cyber security vulnerabilities. Addressing those issues through enhanced safety and soundness requirements would be important to building greater confidence in this technology among the general public and promoting wider adoption.

“We look forward to a spirited discussion on all of these issues.”


Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:49 pm to
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“First, serving as a money changer of choice for terrorists, drug smugglers, illegal weapons dealers, money launderers, and human traffickers can expose the virtual currency industry to extraordinarily serious criminal penalties. Taking steps to root out illegal activity is both a legal and business imperative for virtual currency firms.


Isn't anonymity one of the main selling points?

I would expect government to set there bull's eye directly on this.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Isn't anonymity one of the main selling points?



No, but it could be very soon.

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I would expect government to set there bull's eye directly on this.



Well they have already lost that battle.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:17 pm to
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Well they have already lost that battle.

The bitcoinistas sitting in jail now disagree with you.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:20 pm to
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The bitcoinistas sitting in jail now disagree with you.



What does publishing your name in promotion of a website have to do with bitcoin?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:33 pm to
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What does publishing your name in promotion of a website have to do with bitcoin?

Are you having a stroke?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:39 pm to
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Are you having a stroke?


Are you suggesting that the take down of the Silk Road and its users had anything to do with bitcoin?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:49 pm to
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Are you suggesting that the take down of the Silk Road and its users had anything to do with bitcoin?

I'm saying the arrest of the SR guy and the seizure & confiscation by the FBI of his 170,000 bitcoins proves the govt has not "lost the battle" regarding bitcoin. The same goes for the BitInstant guy.

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What does publishing your name in promotion of a website have to do with bitcoin?
What?

You are behaving weirder than you usually do, fwiw.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:53 pm to
The subject was anonymity. Given the advancements in untraceable transactions (Trustless mixing) they have already lost that battle.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:58 pm to
To be clear, are you saying that no one using btc for illegal purposes will ever be able to be discovered and prosecuted henceforth?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:43 pm to
Come out, come out wherever you are....
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:15 pm to
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To be clear, are you saying that no one using btc for illegal purposes will ever be able to be discovered and prosecuted henceforth?



No, I'm saying in the next few months when the Bitcoin 1.0 platforms (Dark Wallet and things like that) get built on to the bitcoin protocol, those transactions will be anonymous.

So, someone using bitcoin for an illicit activity can trustless mix his way to anonymity.

He might slip up somewhere else, but it won't be because of bitcoin (Like the DPR using his actual name to promote the SR).
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:21 pm to
Bookmarked.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:40 pm to
I want to clarify want I'm saying so things don't get twisted if you wouldn't mind.

These additional layers are being built on top of the protocol. A user has to actually use the Dark Wallet to take advantage of its anonymous transaction feature. This is to say that criminals who want to remain anonymous will soon have incredibly easy access to anonymity (In what will probably be the best designed offline wallet).

LINK
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:48 pm to
So this is your idea of bitcoin being made simpler for the average person?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:49 pm to
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So this is your idea of bitcoin being made simpler for the average person?



Yea, the Dark Wallet client is a lot simpler than the Bitcoin QT client.

Have you tried to use (And download) the QT client?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:59 pm to
What for?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:02 pm to
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What for?



I don't know, just out of an excercise of curiousity. You seem at least interested in it, I don't think it would be too odd for you to try to download the "official" bitcoin client.

Anyways, it's clunky and takes days to download the entire blockchain. Not user friendly for technophiles much less average people.

Dark Wallet will be a light wallet. Very easy to use in a nice form factor, plus it does all the work for you.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:14 pm to
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Anyways, it's clunky and takes days to download the entire blockchain.
No, thanks.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:16 pm to
I don't have it either.
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