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With the 27th pick New Orleans select...
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:47 am
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:47 am
Austin Seferian-Jenkins
Washington's Austin Seferian-Jenkins is actually a complete tight end, which makes him an attractive prospect. He has a massive frame at 6'6 265lbs, giving his QB a huge target over the middle of the field and in the red zone, while providing big time blocking as well. He does not possess great speed, but he is a good athlete and knows how to get open and make a lot of plays as a receiver. Seferian-Jenkins needs to show some more aggressiveness and fire, but his all around skills set him apart from most tight end prospects.
Imagine this guy on the field with Graham. The match up nightmares for the opposing teams with these two working the seams and middle of the field, Colston working the side lines, Stills & Morgan streaking down the field, maybe a little Sproles out of the back field.
This my friends I think is the key to breaking the tough defences of San Fran & Seattle. To many match ups to defend all across the field.
Washington's Austin Seferian-Jenkins is actually a complete tight end, which makes him an attractive prospect. He has a massive frame at 6'6 265lbs, giving his QB a huge target over the middle of the field and in the red zone, while providing big time blocking as well. He does not possess great speed, but he is a good athlete and knows how to get open and make a lot of plays as a receiver. Seferian-Jenkins needs to show some more aggressiveness and fire, but his all around skills set him apart from most tight end prospects.
Imagine this guy on the field with Graham. The match up nightmares for the opposing teams with these two working the seams and middle of the field, Colston working the side lines, Stills & Morgan streaking down the field, maybe a little Sproles out of the back field.
This my friends I think is the key to breaking the tough defences of San Fran & Seattle. To many match ups to defend all across the field.
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:15 am to DownHome
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needs to show some more aggressiveness and fire
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:24 am to BayouFann
This would be disappointing and yes, Austin Is a solid player, but I'd rather address a real need.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:26 am to easy money
Still, we're likely going to go BPA, within reason.
TE would be disappointing.
TE would be disappointing.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:37 am to DownHome
I like CJ Fedorowitz in the 3-4th for a TE.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:52 am to goatmilker
I agree with all about the BPA. Rarely does the front office draft by need. Just a feeling with the small window that Drew has for the remainder of his career, Sean is going to get that one or two weapons that will put the offence in a position to exploit the strong defenses of SF & Sea.
Think this draft is going to be more geared to the O than the D. Just seems like something SP would do.
Think this draft is going to be more geared to the O than the D. Just seems like something SP would do.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:57 am to DownHome
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Think this draft is going to be more geared to the O than the D
A lot of us have been thinking over this. As close as we may be as a team to a shut down defence does CSP give them even more tools at the expense of his offence?
Or does he see the need(as most here do) for explosive playmakers ie RB's and WR/TE's?
Or does he look at just adding the best FA's he can get and BPA in the draft and let the chips fall where they may.
I don't have a clue which direction they will go. Just that the 1st pick will be a surprise
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:14 am to DownHome
I can see some possibility for TE if good BPA value. Still lots of shakeout to be had but I dunno if I have seen anyone that has S-J ahead of Ebron and Amaro. In fact, S-J would probably be called a reach at #27 right now.
Ebron or Amaro I can imagine cuz they rank value-wise as 1st Rders. I proposed this possibility with this reasoning:
- you create a Gronk/Hernandez-like monster for teams to contend with
-Payton would go nuts with this play designing
-It gives you an alternate plan if you don't like where Jimmy Graham negotiations are going. You put them together for a year. If Amaro or Ebron turns out to be all you expect then re-signing Graham to a deal in 2015 becomes optional. Keep the duo going forward OR let the new guy be THE guy (at rookie contract price) and trade Graham with a replacement in place.
Ebron or Amaro I can imagine cuz they rank value-wise as 1st Rders. I proposed this possibility with this reasoning:
- you create a Gronk/Hernandez-like monster for teams to contend with
-Payton would go nuts with this play designing
-It gives you an alternate plan if you don't like where Jimmy Graham negotiations are going. You put them together for a year. If Amaro or Ebron turns out to be all you expect then re-signing Graham to a deal in 2015 becomes optional. Keep the duo going forward OR let the new guy be THE guy (at rookie contract price) and trade Graham with a replacement in place.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:28 am to blueslover
Blue alot of what you said was kind of where I was thinking. True Ebron & Amaro are currently slotted to go higher. The problem I have with them is that they have been split out wide the majority of their careers, whereas S-J is the complete package. He can block something Jimmy has struggled with some. With that ability Sean can still use Jimmy split out in the slot or else where. We do this with Watson, but I could see him as a cap casulty to go with a more dynamic player with more upside for the cheaper.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:39 am to DownHome
Fiedro in the 3rd, deanthony in the 4th, shaq Evans in 6th...those are the offensive weapons I expect them to target. 1st round will be Lb, Cb, or Oline. 2nd will be best available at those same 3 spots.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:41 am to DownHome
Agree the S-J is more complete of a TE but is a step down in receiving threat from the other two. Amaro is even more of just a WR in a TE body than Graham is. When it comes to 1st Rders the value has to fit as well. The evaluation process still has a long ways to go. At this point tho, S-J looks like a reach there.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:06 am to DownHome
If he performs well at the combine, I have no trouble with this pick. It creates a much bigger matchup problem, and gives Brees another good short-intermediate target he's been favoring the past couple of years.
For a long time he was considered to be without a doubt the top TE prospect this year, and probably in the last 5 years. He's got Jimmy Graham type potential, and can help as a blocker right away.
Just think the New England Patriots when they had their two TEs. There's no way of knowing what kind of play was coming next. They could be in a heavy blocking set, they could keep an extra tight end as a blocker while one runs a route, or you could have two run routes straight off the line to open up the middle of the field for a short crossing pattern. And so much more!
Plus, this draft is deep on receivers and they aren't known to make huge impacts as rookies anyway.
I would like the pick. I'm all about BPA this year since I don't believe we have any horribly pressing needs to address besides getting more weapons for Drew in general.
For a long time he was considered to be without a doubt the top TE prospect this year, and probably in the last 5 years. He's got Jimmy Graham type potential, and can help as a blocker right away.
Just think the New England Patriots when they had their two TEs. There's no way of knowing what kind of play was coming next. They could be in a heavy blocking set, they could keep an extra tight end as a blocker while one runs a route, or you could have two run routes straight off the line to open up the middle of the field for a short crossing pattern. And so much more!
Plus, this draft is deep on receivers and they aren't known to make huge impacts as rookies anyway.
I would like the pick. I'm all about BPA this year since I don't believe we have any horribly pressing needs to address besides getting more weapons for Drew in general.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:12 am to Zoombop
I'll also add that I like C.J. Fiedorowicz as a 4th rounder, but I wouldn't start considering him too much before then. He's a clone of Scott Chandler in Buffalo, which is solid, but not exciting enough for me to consider on the first two days of the draft.
Another guy I like at the TE position that can be had later on is Crocket Gillmore from Colorado St. He was a sub for the Senior Bowl and wound up being the best TE there.
Draft his teammate Weston Richburg (C) in the 3rd and target Gillmore in the 5th.
Another guy I like at the TE position that can be had later on is Crocket Gillmore from Colorado St. He was a sub for the Senior Bowl and wound up being the best TE there.
Draft his teammate Weston Richburg (C) in the 3rd and target Gillmore in the 5th.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:41 am to DownHome
I may be alone on this, but we have an old 'complete' TE in watson and the issue we ran into this year was that our wide receivers are getting old and abused.
If we had the choice of a WR or a TE at that pick, which would you guys prefer? I know most people are thinking long term as well in drafting a high prospect TE to open a remote possibility of jimmy being replaced, but someone like Jordan Cameron who came out of nowhere this year was a 4th rounder 3 years ago). Even BPA i feel like we're at a logjam at the TE position for a couple years to draft a TE so high.
If we had the choice of a WR or a TE at that pick, which would you guys prefer? I know most people are thinking long term as well in drafting a high prospect TE to open a remote possibility of jimmy being replaced, but someone like Jordan Cameron who came out of nowhere this year was a 4th rounder 3 years ago). Even BPA i feel like we're at a logjam at the TE position for a couple years to draft a TE so high.
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:54 am to htran90
We already have the best TE in the game, and Watson has done a pretty good job as the #2. Hill is a MFPOS and I don't know how he lasted the whole year on our roster. But we have the TE and the receivers (Stills and Morgan) to occupy the middle of the field. We need a big target on the outside opposite Colston. Mike Evans, Kelvin Benjamin, or Odell Beckham (in that order); should garner the 27th overall selection. If Beckham is the only one left, maybe even trade back to someone looking to jump back into the first. And then take OD3.
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:05 am to WhoDatTigahsTampa
The Saints WILL NOT select a TE with the 27th pick 
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:19 am to WhoDatTigahsTampa
Very true we have the best TE. Watson was decent to medicore, not to mention a little long in the tooth. Maybe a cap casulity. Stills and Morgan are rarely working the middle of the field, mostly see them over the top on post & streak routes. Colston & JG work the middle and side lines.
At the 27th spot I just don't see that dynamic WR that can step in on day one and be what we want him to be. The draft this year is deep at WR but not at 27 unless one of the top guys drops, which I doubt. We have to keep in mind Drews window which gets narrower each year. Do we have time to wait on someone to develope to be effective? Most receivers average 3 yrs. to become effective.
My thinking is a TE that can come in on day 1 and contribute will bennifit Drew right off the bat with taking pressure of JG and the WR's. Think about what New England was able to do when they had Gronk & Thug with medicore WR's. Our WR's are better than that, not to mention this would be a boon to the running game when you can spred the D all accross the field.
At the 27th spot I just don't see that dynamic WR that can step in on day one and be what we want him to be. The draft this year is deep at WR but not at 27 unless one of the top guys drops, which I doubt. We have to keep in mind Drews window which gets narrower each year. Do we have time to wait on someone to develope to be effective? Most receivers average 3 yrs. to become effective.
My thinking is a TE that can come in on day 1 and contribute will bennifit Drew right off the bat with taking pressure of JG and the WR's. Think about what New England was able to do when they had Gronk & Thug with medicore WR's. Our WR's are better than that, not to mention this would be a boon to the running game when you can spred the D all accross the field.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:46 am to DownHome
LB Noy or best CB left on the board.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:50 am to DownHome
Jenkins wont make it out of the top 15
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:57 am to wildtigercat93
this front office has done an amazing job allowing the team to draft bpa every year i can remember. having said that, and knowing the cap crunch, i cannot see them doing much other than db. probably best corner available.
safety, wr, ot, center, even te are all options. not necessarily in that order.
safety, wr, ot, center, even te are all options. not necessarily in that order.
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