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What gets a guy to the NFL? (Nature vs Nurture)
Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:02 pm
Nature -- "This 5-star guy is great. He's a stud. He will be in the NFL no matter what school he goes to."
Nuture -- "This 5-star guy has all the potential, but to make it big he needs proper development/coaching."
Some fodder....
Former 5-star - now considered undraftable
Compare and contrast that, if you will, with what Cam Cameron's tutoring has done for Mettenberger's pro prospects in the last year.
Lastly, LSU has strong track record with top recruits.
Nuture -- "This 5-star guy has all the potential, but to make it big he needs proper development/coaching."
Some fodder....
Former 5-star - now considered undraftable
quote:
Rarely gets to third option in progressions. Part of problem is doesn't see whole field from within the pocket. Misses backs in the flat and receivers outside hashes. Too quick to tuck and run. Freelancer and tries to make too much happen. Puts too much faith in arm strength and throws into traffic. Still learning to read coverage and not always on same page with receivers on option routes.
Compare and contrast that, if you will, with what Cam Cameron's tutoring has done for Mettenberger's pro prospects in the last year.
Lastly, LSU has strong track record with top recruits.
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 1:05 pm
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:04 pm to clamdip
Both
Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:30 pm to LSU Patrick
both
Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:35 pm to RightHook
Both and both.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 3:51 pm to clamdip
Nurture is oh-so important but it won't do a bit of good if you picked the wrong parents. All NFL caliber players were born in the deep end of the gene pool. Some deeper than others but there's no mistaking the genetic component. IOW, you can't turn a donkey into a racehorse.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 5:58 pm to denvertiger
My take: 80% genetics, 20% hard work and know how.
In today's professional sports landscape, you won't even have the opportunity to display your high character and good coaching unless you have some sort of outstanding physical trait that will get you in the door.
In today's professional sports landscape, you won't even have the opportunity to display your high character and good coaching unless you have some sort of outstanding physical trait that will get you in the door.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:14 pm to SpqrTiger
A fine combination of Nature and Nurture creates an NFL player.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:08 pm to clamdip
It depends on the player tbh. You've seen some guys have alright college careers and make it in the NFL just based on their elite athleticism. However it seems those that receive the good coaching get drafted high.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:54 pm to clamdip
75% nature (at minimum), 25% nurture
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:38 pm to clamdip
I think we need to define what we mean by development. To me it is teaching the game and strategy, what responsibilities each position has on different plays, formations, techniques, that sort of stuff and also S&C. Along with that I would add the general mentoring coaches and teachers do.
With that said, it is still mostly natural athletic ability along and the player's willingness to work hard and learn. No matter how much natural talent a player has, he still has to work hard and be willing to accept coaching. He can't just role out of bed and play at the SEC level, let alone the NFL.
With that said, it is still mostly natural athletic ability along and the player's willingness to work hard and learn. No matter how much natural talent a player has, he still has to work hard and be willing to accept coaching. He can't just role out of bed and play at the SEC level, let alone the NFL.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:49 pm to clamdip
Coaching only gets you so far, imo. Same with nature, honestly. If you look at NFL players they all have the genetic potential to develop the kind of bodies the NFL requires. Of all the guys with this DNA, of the ones who actually play in HS, excel, work out, and get enough exposure to get into football schools that is your pool of possibles. Coaching certainly helps at that point, but if you have ever seen anyone associated with the NFL talk about what it takes to make the next step, whether it's players, coaches, scouts, management, whatever, all of them say the same things. The guys in the league are not the most gifted athletes, they are the hardest workers at every level. That's character, not nature or nurture. The one exception is probably QB's, I believe a great quarterback is born, not made. They have arm talent, vision, an ability to focus and think under high stress and most importantly the great ones are wired as pure predators. They see the whole field as their property, the guys on their team and the opposing defense as pawns to be dominated and used, and when the opening is there they consider it theirs by right and take it without hesitation. You can't really coach that attitude. Mechanics, reading defenses, conditioning, you can coach that but not the attitude.
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