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we owe a tad less than 20,000 on our home with a note of 450 per month -

Posted on 1/19/14 at 7:28 pm
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 7:28 pm
I would like to pay it off tomorrow, the wife prefers not to...is there a method in which increasing monthly payment would result in being paid off sooner...I've read something to the effect of adding one payment reduces the period of the mortgage

tia
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 7:31 pm to
What is your current interest rate?

How many years was the original loan?

How many years do you have left on the loan?
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 7:35 pm to
we re-financed about 10 years ago from a 30 to 15 year loan, have about 5 years left and I think the interest rate is in the 5% area....
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

we re-financed about 10 years ago from a 30 to 15 year loan, have about 5 years left and I think the interest rate is in the 5% area....


Normally I would recommend stretching out a mortgage for as long as you possibly can. That's what I'm doing right now - I refinanced a year ago at 30 years for 3 1/4 % and have no intention of ever prepaying a dime. When your rate is lower than inflation you don't want to pay it off - and don't forget the tax deduction for interest.

But your situation is different. I don't know your tax bracket but let's assume 25%. If so, then your after tax interest rate is a little less than 4%. Still pretty low.

OTOH you're only talking about 20K, in which case it may not be worth the trouble to keep up with it. Depends on what your time is worth.

Either way I wouldn't worry too much. What I would worry about is that you don't know your interest rate exactly. I can't imagine taking out a mortgage and not knowing exactly how much interest I'm paying.

ETA: If your home has a high enough value your best move may be to refi right now for 30 years fixed. Rates were better last year but they're still pretty good.
This post was edited on 1/19/14 at 8:08 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 8:44 pm to
With 5 years left, you are pretty much finished paying interest anyway. I wouldn't pay it off. Just keep making your normal payments.

Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16901 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 10:06 pm to
450$ a month for housing? Trailer? If you have any kind of decent income that should be pocket change. Keep the 20k and invest it
Posted by LSUTigers00884
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2011
1160 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 11:34 pm to
At your rate, you would pay it off in a little over three and half years. Double your payment (900$) and that's a year and half. That's what I would do. Just get rid of it and be free from DEBT, and the additional income coming in would be nice.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:50 am to
The way amortization works is that the loan terms are front loaded with interest.

OP only has 5 years left which means he is primarily paying principal for the remaining term.

Paying it off early doesn't make any financial sense but may provide peace of mind.
Posted by Duck
Member since Dec 2006
361 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:55 am to
No -- he is paying interest on the remaining principle.

The question should be would he rather have 20K in the bank or a loan for 20k @ his after-tax interest rate (which is probably 5%). Given the amount of the loan/pmt and the general discussion, I would say there is a good chance he gets no tax benefit from the interest (He would probably get 100% of the benefit from the standard deductions).
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:58 am to
quote:

he is paying interest on the remaining principle.


right, but it is negligent. I would say 85%-90% of his monthly payment at this time is applied towards principal.

ETA: Math done in head. I could be a little off
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 9:59 am
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:04 am to
Cash Flow is important. Keep making payments.
Posted by nelatf
NELA
Member since Jan 2011
2296 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Cash Flow is important. Keep making payments.


I agree with coach and ILB - cash flow is king and you already paid the bulk of interest - ride this as free money now.

Save for college, plow it into roths, build up an emergency fund, etc.

Posted by ljd4662
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
93 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:34 am to
quote:

ETA: If your home has a high enough value your best move may be to refi right now for 30 years fixed. Rates were better last year but they're still pretty good.


This would be retarded. Pay off your house
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19969 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Paying it off early doesn't make any financial sense but may provide peace of mind.


This is the best synopsis, and the true trade-off for the OP to consider.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32643 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

This would be retarded. Pay off your house
Not having a house payment right now is retarded IMO. Rates are too good.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Rates are too good.


It's $20,000. Not to mention the loan fees would be 10% of the total mortgage.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13652 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 2:27 pm to
I wouldn't throw a big sum of money into the market all at once, so I would just pay it off, and dollar cost average the $450 every month into the market.

Assuming you are in Witchita Falls, TX, you could write a check for taxes every year and not worry about escrow (might be more negligible in LA, but Texas has a higher property tax).
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