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Coyotes and deer - whats ur belief?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:52 pm
My uncles place used to be covered in deer. Would see 20 a hunt. Also it was covered up in yotes. Everynight they would howl all over
Now, no deer. No sign. Also, no more yotes
A landowner down the road from him captured a female yote and put a tracking collar on it. Followed her back to the den and place game cameras out. The yote brought back 8 fawns this year
Anyone seeing similar population effects?
Now, no deer. No sign. Also, no more yotes
A landowner down the road from him captured a female yote and put a tracking collar on it. Followed her back to the den and place game cameras out. The yote brought back 8 fawns this year
Anyone seeing similar population effects?
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:54 pm to jimjackandjose
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Now, no deer. No sign. Also, no more yotes
ok
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A landowner down the road from him captured a female yote and put a tracking collar on it. Followed her back to the den and place game cameras out. The yote brought back 8 fawns this year
well, there you go
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:23 pm to jimjackandjose
Ill tell ya, some of the places I've hunted where I heard te most yotes, also had the highest deer numbers. Places where I never hear them, I also see few deer.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:28 pm to jimjackandjose
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A landowner down the road from him captured a female yote and put a tracking collar on it. Followed her back to the den and place game cameras out. The yote brought back 8 fawns this year
I'm having a very hard time buying this story. A very very hard time.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:32 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
So your saying coyotes stay with their food source?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:34 pm to jimjackandjose
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Followed her back to the den and place game cameras out. The yote brought back 8 fawns this year
Pics
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:35 pm to tenfoe
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I'm having a very hard time buying this story. A very very hard time.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:36 pm to tenfoe
That fella is brave and/or stupid
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:37 pm to OTIS2
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So your saying coyotes stay with their food source?
logic and common sense in play here
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:46 pm to OTIS2
If that's what you got from my post then take it and run with it
Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:06 pm to jimjackandjose
LINK
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Using radio collars, DNA and other modern tools, his team concluded – in studies from 2006 to 2009 – that coyotes are killing at least 37 percent of newborn fawns, and most likely as many as 80 percent, based on the ones studied at SRS.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:23 pm to Raz4back
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quote: Using radio collars, DNA and other modern tools, his team concluded – in studies from 2006 to 2009 – that coyotes are killing at least 37 percent of newborn fawns, and most likely as many as 80 percent, based on the ones studied at SRS.
Numbers like that could only happen in an area with ridiculously high numbers of coyotes. There would also have to be a really high number of deer on that property. Otherwise, they'd wipe the deer out in a couple years. Dear die from lots of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with coyotes or people.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:33 pm to tenfoe
I remember reading about MS State doing a research study by collaring does, and then finding their fawns and collaring them.
They would then track the fawns when they noticed they were no longer moving. This would lead them to finding collars and fawn carcasses.
Don't remember the number, but I was shocked by the number of fawns taken by yotes
They would then track the fawns when they noticed they were no longer moving. This would lead them to finding collars and fawn carcasses.
Don't remember the number, but I was shocked by the number of fawns taken by yotes
Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:48 pm to tenfoe
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. Dear die from lots of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with coyotes or people.
Not saying that they don't, but if there is a large population of coyotes they can have a big impact on a local deer heard. We are currently having problems with fawn recruitment due to coyotes and pigs. I don't even want to talk about our turkey population.
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In a fawn survival study in Centre County Pennsylvania during 2000-2001, 218 fawns were radioed and followed with telemetry equipment. Of these fawns, predators killed 22 percent, the leading source of mortality. Of the fawns killed by predators, most were killed by coyotes (49%) and bears (43%). Nearly 50% of all mortality occurred during the month of June, with 18 percent and 16 percent in July and August. It was interesting to note that 84 percent of fawn predation occurred on one of two study areas. This probably illustrates the difference in predation rates due to localized coyote populations.
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The results of these studies are somewhat surprising. The percentage of fawns killed by coyotes is highly variable, ranging from as low as 10% to as high as 60%. Although findings from these types of studies are valuable, a handful of more recent ones have taken a different approach. In one of these studies, conducted here at the University of Georgia (UGA), researchers estimated fawn recruitment before and after an intensive coyote removal program, conducted just prior to fawning season, on a 2,000-acre property in Alabama. Fawn recruitment increased by almost 200% in the fall following the removal!
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We studied the effect of coyote (Canis latrans) predation on early survival of sympatric mule deer and white-tailed deer in Colorado. We captured and marked 120 newborn fawns in spring 1991 and 1992. Survival to 30 days was greater for mule deer fawns than for white-tailed deer fawns. Coyote predation accounted for 79% of early fawn mortality for both species.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:20 am to jimjackandjose
Hmm, idk. Place where I hunt was crawling with coyotes a few years back. But I still saw tons of deer. Even in the same day. I picked off 4 of them in one week and haven't seen them since, although I can hear them at night. I made it my life's goal to kill this massive black yote who I'm assuming ran shite around that area. Never killed him but I haven't seen him for a couple years. I don't know how they move around and idk how many there were but they never really bothered anything even when I'd see them regularly.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:34 am to ReauxlTide222
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massive black yote
Or was it...
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:45 am to jimjackandjose
quote:i'm a tad skeptical
A landowner down the road from him captured a female yote and put a tracking collar on it. Followed her back to the den and place game cameras out. The yote brought back 8 fawns this year
Posted on 1/5/14 at 1:28 am to Buddy Garrity
fwiw,
this song dog was killed by some friends of mine.
google images has quite a few pics like this . fawns are easy prey for coyotes who need to feed their pups during the spring
this song dog was killed by some friends of mine.
google images has quite a few pics like this . fawns are easy prey for coyotes who need to feed their pups during the spring
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:14 am to Got Blaze
i use to hunt in morganza and would hear yotes every night and the would sometime jump on our porch at night. we also killed a ridiculous amount of deer. our best year was 35 deer between 4 people...
also our woods flooded every year so that may have helped them survive i dunno. i do know we would feed the hell out of em with the gut piles. we would hear at least 5-8 howling every night. we also never seen em during the day. we never killed any in 5 years. we would kill a bobcat every year though.
also our woods flooded every year so that may have helped them survive i dunno. i do know we would feed the hell out of em with the gut piles. we would hear at least 5-8 howling every night. we also never seen em during the day. we never killed any in 5 years. we would kill a bobcat every year though.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:15 am to brbowhunter
Not bad. That is only 11 over the legal limit for a season.
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