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Bob Stoops - Pot vs. Kettle
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:07 pm
Ten years ago, the luster of OU, UTX, and the Big12 lost some of its luster....aside from the UT win against USC, it's been all SEC.
Living in OK for the past 15 years, it was gut-wrenching to see the winner of the OU/TX game each year be automatically catapulted to the top of the polls(usually to the detriment of the SEC) and in line for a NC slot, in spite of the fact that there was rarely a year when either team had to play more than 1 other top 10-20 team all year long. The jealousy of Stoops is understandable - he and his team have not won a truly meaningful game (from a national perspective) for roughly 10 years.
Bitch all he wants, beating an emotionally "down" 1-loss BAMA team in a fairly meaningless game (to BAMA) does not equate to "tooting your horn" about how great you are....and how mediocre the SEC is. After all, his team IS a 2-loss team that was absolutely shellacked by two teams who BOTH lost their bowl games.
Considering how long it took for the SEC to break the media suck-fest for OU/TX by EARNING IT ON THE FIELD, I'd say your enthusiasm in gloating over this win is nothing more than childish and unwarranted.
Pot/Kettle!
Living in OK for the past 15 years, it was gut-wrenching to see the winner of the OU/TX game each year be automatically catapulted to the top of the polls(usually to the detriment of the SEC) and in line for a NC slot, in spite of the fact that there was rarely a year when either team had to play more than 1 other top 10-20 team all year long. The jealousy of Stoops is understandable - he and his team have not won a truly meaningful game (from a national perspective) for roughly 10 years.
Bitch all he wants, beating an emotionally "down" 1-loss BAMA team in a fairly meaningless game (to BAMA) does not equate to "tooting your horn" about how great you are....and how mediocre the SEC is. After all, his team IS a 2-loss team that was absolutely shellacked by two teams who BOTH lost their bowl games.
Considering how long it took for the SEC to break the media suck-fest for OU/TX by EARNING IT ON THE FIELD, I'd say your enthusiasm in gloating over this win is nothing more than childish and unwarranted.
Pot/Kettle!
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:08 pm to TiggerB8t
Bob Stoops ended Bobby B's reign, and that lasted over a decade.
I hope Bama suffers a similar fate, just much longer.
I hope Bama suffers a similar fate, just much longer.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:10 pm to TiggerB8t
I don't believe it was an "emotionally down" Bama team. Just don't believe in that. OU played a better game than Bama. Simple as that. No excuses. It's the sugar bowl. A BCS bowl. Not the chicken bowl.
No way that a BCS bowl is meaningless.
No way that a BCS bowl is meaningless.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:14 pm to TiggerB8t
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TiggerB8t
Understand your rant. Can't say I care much about the underachieving crybaby Stoops other than he is just Dabo Swinney of the Midwest. Both cry about the SEC when they play one team and not a full schedule.
On another note, OU and Clemson along with UCF were some of the lowest ranked teams to play in BCS Bowls. Missouri and South Carolina ranked higher, but were kept out because the SEC couldn't have more than two teams in the BCS bowls. Don't think they should be given a pass for playing a weaker schedule that doesn't give them the points to be ranked higher. Schedule better.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:31 pm to TiggerB8t
OU came to play and punched Bama hard. They should be very proud of beating Bama.
Plus he has another 3 years with Knight, he could be dangerous to win some games over that time period.
Plus he has another 3 years with Knight, he could be dangerous to win some games over that time period.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:34 pm to tigercreole
Agree that that "no way should a BCS game be meaningless" - but, in the case of a lost opportunity for a 3-peat NC, I'll beg to differ with you.
That being said, I'm begrudgingly glad that Saban and the Tide fans have to take a big gulp of reality on how difficult it is to get up for a game that they're emotionally on the wrong end of the "psyche meter".....just wish it had been by some other team from another conference -or- at least from a Mike Gundy-type OSU team who'd possibly be a bit more humble in winning.
OU had nothing to lose, and played their absolutely "Best Game" in many, many years. Bama played close to their "Worst Game". Stoops should've kept his mouth shut, but he's instead tried to make this game into something much bigger than it was....certainly not anything with NC implications and/or a full vindication of their conference.
That being said, I'm begrudgingly glad that Saban and the Tide fans have to take a big gulp of reality on how difficult it is to get up for a game that they're emotionally on the wrong end of the "psyche meter".....just wish it had been by some other team from another conference -or- at least from a Mike Gundy-type OSU team who'd possibly be a bit more humble in winning.
OU had nothing to lose, and played their absolutely "Best Game" in many, many years. Bama played close to their "Worst Game". Stoops should've kept his mouth shut, but he's instead tried to make this game into something much bigger than it was....certainly not anything with NC implications and/or a full vindication of their conference.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:35 pm to SouthOfSouth
quote:When an entire program from top to bottom believes in titles or nothing you will get the results you saw on Thursday. That being said, there is no excuse to give up 6 sacks and turn the ball over 4 times. OU really did take it to Bama. They do deserve credit.
I don't believe it was an "emotionally down" Bama team. Just don't believe in that. OU played a better game than Bama. Simple as that. No excuses. It's the sugar bowl. A BCS bowl. Not the chicken bowl.
No way that a BCS bowl is meaningless.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:38 pm to MontyFranklyn
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They do deserve credit
They deserve all the credit. Alabama gave it their best. You could see it on the field. They ran hard and made big hits on defense. OU was the better team. I think they would beat UA again, and probably by a larger margin.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:41 pm to SabiDojo
quote:If we don't turn the ball over 4 times, let Henry get most of the carries and come out pressuring the qb from the beginning do you still think the will blast us?
They deserve all the credit. Alabama gave it their best. You could see it on the field. They ran hard and made big hits on defense. OU was the better team. I think they would beat UA again, and probably by a larger margin
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:42 pm to MontyFranklyn
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When an entire program from top to bottom believes in titles or nothing you will get the results you saw on Thursday
Makes sense. Same thing with Aggies and Auburn. Gave up over 120 points in those 3 games because they didnt mean anything
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:43 pm to MontyFranklyn
Do you think you're going to just suddenly block their pass rush better? Hardly. Their speed off the edge made your line look ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:46 pm to SabiDojo
quote:Like I said if we give the ball to Henry more then we wouldn't be put into passing situations where they can pin their ears back. If we leaned on them for 3 quarters then the would have been to tired and worn to be effective. They beat us but there were things we could have done to not allow them to utilize their strengths.
Do you think you're going to just suddenly block their pass rush better? Hardly. Their speed of the edge made your line look ridiculous.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:50 pm to agdoctor
Those other two games you mentioned (Auburn & aTm)did mean more - Bama was #1, undefeated, and NC implications were all on the line. Both were SEC opponents as well.
The point of my post is that Stoops should not have been so vocal about trashing the SEC - the numbers don't support it. I certainly don't recall Stoops or Mack Brown giving any big "props" to SEC schools when they (SEC schools) perennially had to have a perfect record to have a chance at even being in the NC game. In Auburn's case, that wasn't even enough one year. Get my point?
The point of my post is that Stoops should not have been so vocal about trashing the SEC - the numbers don't support it. I certainly don't recall Stoops or Mack Brown giving any big "props" to SEC schools when they (SEC schools) perennially had to have a perfect record to have a chance at even being in the NC game. In Auburn's case, that wasn't even enough one year. Get my point?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:52 pm to MontyFranklyn
I think what we're finding out is the Saban/Bama defensive foundation/philosophy is a bad matchup against the up tempo spread offenses...
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:58 pm to roscoe mike
quote:Not really. In our d you need a DT that can eat 2 blocks and we didn't have that this year. that is why we are going after Elam so hard because we need that guy taking a double team to free up other guys to blitz with out compromising secondary coverage.
I think what we're finding out is the Saban/Bama defensive foundation/philosophy is a bad matchup against the up tempo spread offenses...
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:59 pm to roscoe mike
You are correct, Roscoe. And it is a neutralizer in the college game. Bottom line, if the prototypical SEC power offense cannot combine some type of credible passing offense with its running game, they find themselves in a shoot-out where the winner is unknown until the final possession. As I recall, the Sugar Bowl was no different. As much ballyhooed as this victory was, it still boiled down to a "last possession". The fumble by Yeldon when Bama had the lead and moving toward another score was the momentum-changer, and allowed OU the necessary breathing room to continue in their game plan. Neither team looked dominating on defense, but at least OU had a mobile QB who got off the tough passes under pressure vs. the multiple sacks on McCarron.....ultimately, the difference-maker in the game....and ironically, a RS Frosh vs. the "MVP" and Heisman contender!
Good win for Bob and OU, but STFU!
Good win for Bob and OU, but STFU!
Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:09 pm to TiggerB8t
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The jealousy of Stoops is understandable - he and his team have not won a truly meaningful game (from a national perspective) for roughly 10 years.
lol wut??
Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:10 pm to TiggerB8t
Stoops knows his conference is shite compared to the sec. Give the poor boy his 15 minutes of relevance.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:18 pm to TiggerB8t
beating bama is beating bama
stfu
LSU fans defending Bama for SEC pride
stfu
LSU fans defending Bama for SEC pride
Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:22 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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LSU fans defending Bama
I just threw up in my mouth.
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