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Proposed: new playoff bracketing that seeds based on record.

Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:34 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:34 am
Eliminate the structure whereby Division Champs get higher seeds. Seed every team according to W/L record. This could mean that a Division Champ would miss the playoffs, but, would eliminate many 8-8 or 7-9 Division Champs, too.

Eliminate the NFL Conference "divide" in the playoff bracketing, such that, just like the regular season, the playoffs include games between NFC and AFC teams. As such, teams from the same NFL Conference could meet in the SuperBowl.

Precedent? NCAA football when two teams from the same SEC Conference Division met for the BCS National Championship.

Rational thoughts, analysis and opinions are requested. Thanks.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:36 am to
I like the divisions b/c it keeps some good rivalries in tact.

I'm 100% on board with seeding based on record. This is the second time in four years the Saints have to visit a team with a worse record.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:36 am to
Seed teams based on record, first tie breaker is division winner.

Division winners get automatic playoff status but not home field.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:36 am to
I don't think Division champs should miss the playoffs, but I also don't think 8-7-1 teams should be hosting playoff games either.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 9:37 am
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Seed teams based on record, first tie breaker is division winner.

Division winners get automatic playoff status but not home field.


This. I just used more words to say it

quote:

Eliminate the NFL Conference "divide" in the playoff bracketing, such that, just like the regular season, the playoffs include games between NFC and AFC teams. As such, teams from the same NFL Conference could meet in the SuperBowl.


I don't like this part at all tbh
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 9:38 am
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:36 am to
Win the division you should be in the playoffs
Posted by TopWaterTiger
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Seed teams based on record, first tie breaker is division winner.

Division winners get automatic playoff status but not home field.


This is best. Still need to keep AFC vs NFC brackets. But seeding and home field should go to better records.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:38 am to
I prefer the way it is. If you want a home game win your division.
Posted by kclsufan
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:38 am to
At the very least teams without winning records should NOT be in the playoffs. Use the next highest seeded team in the case of Seattle a couple of years ago.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56539 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:43 am to
quote:

At the very least teams without winning records should NOT be in the playoffs. Use the next highest seeded team in the case of Seattle a couple of years ago.



meh
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28379 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:44 am to
I still like the division format and providing teams with the incentive of winning the division = playoffs even if it means an 8-8 champ gets in over a 11-5 non-division winner. With everybody playing intra-division games yesterday, there was a lot of high drama. If you take away that incentive and you essentially do away with divisons. With that you would lose some great, long standing, intra-division rivalries.

However, I don't think you should get a home game and higher seed just because you won the division. Once the playoff teams are set seed them according to record. If that means that 2 teams from the NFC West are #1 and #2 then so be it.
Posted by Alatgr
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Seed teams based on record, first tie breaker is division winner.

Division winners get automatic playoff status but not home field.



Support. It sucks that teams with a better record get screwed by playing in a division with another great team while an 8-7-1 team in a meh division gets a home game.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 9:55 am
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:59 am to
Agreed , keep the same format of division winners and wildcard teams getting in but seed them based on performance
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I like the divisions b/c it keeps some good rivalries in tact.


Divisions and Division Champs would be retained. Under the new system, however, a Division Champ with a weak W/L record could miss the playoffs.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:02 am to
quote:

I don't think Division champs should miss the playoffs, but I also don't think 8-7-1 teams should be hosting playoff games either.




Are you in favor of a 7-9 Division Champ making the playoffs while a 11-5 team misses the playoffs?

Not me.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:37 am to
what's even more fricked up is green bay gets home field advantage with 4 seed, still picks 21st in draft and SF is at 29 as it currently is situated.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:40 am to
I guess division champs would still get in but an inferior overall record to that of a wild card would mean the wild card team is seeded higher.

Division champs get in but seeding is based on overall record.
Posted by 3HourTour
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:40 am to
NFL BCS. Top 12 teams get in and are seeded according to ranking.


/thread
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Eliminate the NFL Conference "divide" in the playoff bracketing, such that, just like the regular season, the playoffs include games between NFC and AFC teams. As such, teams from the same NFL Conference could meet in the SuperBowl.


That would be better for the NBA but not the NFL.

Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48382 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Top 12 teams get in and are seeded according to ranking.


Yes, of course, that's the proposal.

Why are some people so wedded to the notion that even a weak Division Champ must be included in the playoff tournament? The Divisional structure of the NFL is somewhat traditional, but, does not date to the dawn of the NFL. For many years, there were NO divisions in the NFL.
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