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The Up and Coming coaches talent pool
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:42 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:42 am
Has there ever been such a lack of? There's not even hot names I can think of anymore. I wouldn't want to be a top program looking for a coach right now.
Who's the top potential name right now.. A guy like Deruyter?
Who's the top potential name right now.. A guy like Deruyter?
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:51 am to Javzz
How do you define "up and coming" coaches? Younger guys at mid major type programs?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:55 am to Javzz
Its become a media driven frenzy. One year goes by and a whole new hot list comes out, last years guys are forgotten.
For instance, Bill O'Brien was a hot name after last year, and he hasn't been mentioned at all for potential openings. IMO he is the next great hire for a big program.
For instance, Bill O'Brien was a hot name after last year, and he hasn't been mentioned at all for potential openings. IMO he is the next great hire for a big program.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:56 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Hudspeth, Hud Jackson
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:59 am to cajuntiger07
Curtis Johnson
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:59 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I define it as a coach I'd be excited about my program hiring. Realitistically, you're not going to pull a coach from a top program. So yeah, usually a guy that's at a mid tier program or a coordinator.
If Coach Hud is the cream of the crop then yeah, the current talent pool fricking sucks.
If Coach Hud is the cream of the crop then yeah, the current talent pool fricking sucks.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:12 am to Javzz
I can't understand why Dantonio is not mentioned often for elite program jobs. He is probably too boring for most, but his style of play and tough defense would translate to any big time program.
If Miles ever left LSU, I'd want LSU to target Dantonio or O'Brien.
I don't follow the top assistants that much since most top programs want a guy with HC experience.
If Miles ever left LSU, I'd want LSU to target Dantonio or O'Brien.
I don't follow the top assistants that much since most top programs want a guy with HC experience.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:53 am to bayoujd
For guys that haven't been head coaches yet, Kirby Smart and Scott Frost are getting a lot of buzz.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:59 am to bayoujd
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I can't understand why Dantonio is not mentioned often for elite program jobs. He is probably too boring for most, but his style of play and tough defense would translate to any big time program.
If Miles ever left LSU, I'd want LSU to target Dantonio or O'Brien.
I don't follow the top assistants that much since most top programs want a guy with HC experience.
I like Dantonio and wanted him for our job last year, but his health problems scare me a bit, and his offenses at MSU have been downright anemic. Granted, that can be fixed by the right OC hire, but he's also no spring chicken (turns 58 in March).
I'm actually surprised no one in the SEC jumped on him after the 2010 or 2011 seasons when he won 11 games both years. I think he'd have been a good hire for Ole Miss. Heck, he'd have been a great get for Tennessee if they'd have cut the cord on Dooley a year earlier.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:02 am to UT755LN
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For guys that haven't been head coaches yet, Kirby Smart and Scott Frost are getting a lot of buzz.
I think the bloom has come off of the Kirby Smart rose, mostly because it's looking more and more like there's a hush-hush gentleman's agreement that he succeeds Saban unless the Georgia job comes open.
I'm really surprised Nebraska didn't can Pelini and hire Scott Frost.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:07 am to Feral
Whats the draw with Scott Frost?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:12 am to Javzz
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Whats the draw with Scott Frost?
Oregon offense, was a part of the entire Chip Kelly era. I think he's seen as another Kliff Kingsbury.
Plus, the guy has played/worked under who's who of coaches. Played under Bill Walsh, Tom Osborne and Bill Parcells and coached under Chip Kelly.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:14 am to bayoujd
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I can't understand why Dantonio is not mentioned often for elite program jobs. He is probably too boring for most, but his style of play and tough defense would translate to any big time program.
57 with a heart attack and has been loyal to msu. Also, I other than S. Carolina or Ohio State, I don't see him being interested in any other gig.
As for MSU, I'd like to see where Pat Narduzzi, the DC, ends up. Hope he does better than a MAC school.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:47 am to SpartyGator
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Here is one that might be a darkhorse candidate. Vince Kehres of DIII superpower Mount Union (OH). He is in his 1st season as head coach at Mount Union after his father, the legendary Larry Kehres stepped down. He was on the staff for 13 seasons (8 as D coordinator) and was as a player for 4. He has been a part of 10 out of 11 National Championships at Mount Union. Mount Union is currently 12-0 and ranked #1 in the country in NCAA DIII.
It would be a very risky move, but this guy comes from a championship background and knows how to win. It would be interesting if somebody offered him, if he would ever leave Mount Union? If he wins 2-3 championships in the next 5 years or so, would he be tempted to test the waters?
Here is one that might be a darkhorse candidate. Vince Kehres of DIII superpower Mount Union (OH). He is in his 1st season as head coach at Mount Union after his father, the legendary Larry Kehres stepped down. He was on the staff for 13 seasons (8 as D coordinator) and was as a player for 4. He has been a part of 10 out of 11 National Championships at Mount Union. Mount Union is currently 12-0 and ranked #1 in the country in NCAA DIII.
It would be a very risky move, but this guy comes from a championship background and knows how to win. It would be interesting if somebody offered him, if he would ever leave Mount Union? If he wins 2-3 championships in the next 5 years or so, would he be tempted to test the waters?
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:34 pm to Buckeye Backer
Here is a list I posted last year:
quote:feel free to update this list
Here's a list of some guys who I think who could get a shot at a big school in the next 3-5 years if they keep having success. Any additions, subtractions, thoughts?
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Dave Doeren - 5 seasons as Wisconsin DC, 2nd year as HC at northern illinois with record of 21-4
Gary Anderson - 5 seasons as Utah DC, 4th season as HC at utah state with record of 24-24, but is 9-2 this year
Kyle Flood - 6 seasons as OL coach with Rutgers, first seasons as HC at Rutgers with 9-1 record
Darrell Hazell - 6 seasons as Ohio St. WR/arse HC, 2nd year as HC at Kent St with 15-8 record, 10-1 this season
Sonny Dykes - 3 seasons as OC/QB coach at Arizona, 3rd season at La Tech with record of 22-14, 9-2 this season
Charlie Strong - 8 seasons as DC, interim HC, co-DC, 3rd season at Louisville with record of 23-13, 9-1 this season
Mike MacIntyre - 2 seasons as Duke DC, 3rd season as HC at San Jose St with record of 15-21, 9-2 record this year
Tim DeRuyter - 2 seasons as Texas A&M DC, 1st season as HC at Fresno State with record of 8-3
Rocky Long - 3 seasons as San Diego State DC, 2nd season as HC at San Diego State with record of 16-8, 8-3 record this year
Gus Malzahn - 3 years as Auburn OC, 1st season as HC at Arkansas State with record of 8-3
Butch Jones - 3 years as HC at Central Michigan with record of 27-13, 3rd season as HC at Cincinatti with record of 21-14
Willie Taggart - 3 seasons as Stanford RB coach, 3rd season as HC at Western Kentucky with 15-20 record, 6-5 record this season
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:46 pm to Feral
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I'm really surprised Nebraska didn't can Pelini and hire Scott Frost.
I don't think Pelini is out of the woods yet; I could see Nebraska firing him after their bowl.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:59 pm to bayoujd
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I don't think Pelini is out of the woods yet; I could see Nebraska firing him after their bowl.
That's so late in the game, though.
Tennessee was fricked in terms of hiring a coach after Kiffin left partially because he didn't bolt for USC until early January after their bowl.
Same deal for Michigan -- didn't fire Rich Rod until after the Gator Bowl and then had to settle for Hoke because they couldn't get Harbaugh or Miles.
If you're gonna get rid of your coach and try to land a decent name, you better do it before the bowls start or you're generally out of luck.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:31 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
How old is still considered young with regards to coaches? 40 the cutoff age?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:55 pm to ZZTIGERS
Asu Novell up and coming
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:10 pm to Feral
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Same deal for Michigan -- didn't fire Rich Rod until after the Gator Bowl and then had to settle for Hoke because they couldn't get Harbaugh or Miles.
Eh, Harbaugh was going to be an NFL coach anyway.
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If you're gonna get rid of your coach and try to land a decent name, you better do it before the bowls start or you're generally out of luck.
worked out well with Foley and Zook, and got UF Urban Meyer.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 3:11 pm
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