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CajunAngele
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‘All Hell Is Going to Break Loose’ When Employers Dump Plans



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Video: ‘All Hell Is Going to Break Loose’ When Employers Dump Plans Due to Obamacare

George Will urged supporters of Obamacare to take today’s report of the HealthCare.gov fixes lightly as he read from the administration’s status report that its functionality was still months away. Will also warned that the problems with the health-care law will not end with the website’s ultimate repair, pointing out that structural elements of the law will lead to problems, such as employers dropping insurance plans.

“Watch the employers, because if they start dumping people into Medicare and into Medicaid, and the doctors then say, ‘The burdens are too high, and the reimbursement is too low, we’re not seeing Medicaid patients,’ then all hell is going to break loose,” he said on Fox News Sunday.

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Lsut81
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All Hell Is Going to Break Loose









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TrueTiger
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I don't doubt this would happen but:

What will be the containment strategy of the Ministry of Propaganda?






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DeltaDoc
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What will be the containment strategy of the Ministry of Propaganda?


They will blame the greedy doctors and for profit healthcare providers (and the GOP but that goes without saying).




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Homesick Tiger
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Hell has already broken loose. It's now looking for places to land and we all pretty much know where that is.





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wilfont
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What will be the containment strategy of the Ministry of Propaganda?

Obstructionist Republicans
Greedy physicians
Insurance companies selling bad policies
First step in reducing healthcare cost for everyone
Something about Bush






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the808bass
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Just as individual plans' premiums have skyrocketed, employer plans will when they become subject to the mandates.

And it will force companies to dump employees. Within 3-5 years, I'd guess 60% of employers will dump their employees out. It is going to be the biggest cluster we've ever seen.






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Armymann50
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It is all bush's fault.


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deltaland
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Yep people will riot. Obama will have his domestic crisis and declare Marshall law. We will be under full tyranny at that point





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CajunAngele
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When martial law is enacted it will be too late to impeach. Which is why I scratch my head and wonder. When an Obama impeachment thread or post appears on this board how there are people that actually post, 'impeach Obama for what'?






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dewster
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I've been trying to explain the depth of this problem to my wife...coming up with another $600 or $700 per month is going to be challenging. She thinks it will be back peddled or delayed indefinitely.

I'm anticipating massive increases in premiums. Employer contributions toward health insurance premiums will also be taxable now so just tack that onto the costs. If we are dumped and forced onto the exchanges, we'll end up still paying more than what we do now but with a significantly higher deductible. I'm not even sure if any of the local doctors or hospitals are on those plans.

This will be big enough to impact consumer spending in a negative way nationwide. I don't think people grasp how painful this will be to millions of people with employer sponsored plans that were relatively insulated from the carnage this year outside of premium hikes. Some of you are thinking that this won't impact you will be in for a shock next year.

If it's bad enough I'll get my wife a plan on the exchange and pay the penalty for myself. I am fairly confident my company will take care of us though.



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NC_Tigah
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I've been trying to explain the depth of this problem to my wife...coming up with another $600 or $700 per month is going to be challenging.
"there will be winners and there will be losers"






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Jay Quest
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I'm a fortunate invincible still in my 20's with an insurance policy fully paid for by my employer who's on record as saying nothing will change in that regard. Thanks Wilfont.

Still, I despise what Obama and the dems are doing to others.






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Homesick Tiger
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I don't think people grasp how painful this will be to millions of people with employer sponsored plans






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Homesick Tiger
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I don't think people grasp how painful this will be to millions of people with employer sponsored plans


Dems, libs, radicals, progs - they don't see the big picture, just the snapshot.






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gatorrocks
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“Watch the employers, because if they start dumping people into Medicare and into Medicaid, and the doctors then say, ‘The burdens are too high, and the reimbursement is too low, we’re not seeing Medicaid patients,’ then all hell is going to break loose,” he said on Fox News Sunday.

Yeah, no shite. I know liberals are short sighted but they know exactly what they are doing. THEY WANT it to collapse.






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udtiger
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dewster
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I think this could result in many young people like myself opting out of this very high cost, high deductible coverage.

Instead of millions going without insurance because they don't want to pay $100 for a simple major medical plan, we'll have millions of working middle class people who want coverage but can't afford it. The penalties aren't going to be much next year. It will be very tempting to just opt out and hope for the best.

Many companies will give stipends (taxable now) for their employers to go onto the exchange. Expect to get hit from both sides (taxes and premium hikes) while your deductible goes up.



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Lsut81
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I don't think people grasp how painful this will be to millions of people with employer sponsored plans


Also, whereas now, if you employer covers you and you pay premiums, it is pre-tax.... Once employers dump you onto the exchanges, even if the plans are the same price, you will be paying post-tax.






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dewster
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Exactly...we'll be hit on both sides now.

Even the poster (Jay Quest?) that thinks he won't feel it will be in for a shock next year.

There's a good chance Obama delays this again. It's going to have major implications in politics if it is allowed to go forward with this much pain for the middle class.



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