Question for everyone regarding Monty

Firing him now is a bit of an overreaction if you dont have Karl lined up, ready to go.

The team has underperformed and Monty deserves all the criticism he is getting. His schemes have been woefully inadequate or very, very poorly taught. His ideas on offense and defense seem to be the exact opposite of what any good coach wants.

Yet, they've played 9 games. This isnt a veteran team with a proven record tuning a coach out. No matter the coach, this team, like all young teams (yes, even like the young Thunder a few years back), will be inconsistent as they learn. There is still time to have a successful season- playoffs were never guaranteed despite what the preseason record was.

The message needs to be “your systems suck. Change them or you will not coach here much longer."

That's basically my line of thinking

I agree. I want Monty gone NOW. I just don't think Benson thought we would be this woeful this soon. I don't think he's ready to pull the trigger. If we can't get a coach in now to install new philosophies, we have no other choice but to ride it out til maybe the break. If we still are as bad as we are now, IDGAF who they hire. Hire JayJay with his infinite wisdom.

I take that back. I don't want Avery Johnson.

I hate the tanking BS go out and play.

This teams need to just run up tempo and quit trying to be a defensive team.

Because we are giving up points on defense already like we are an uptempo team just without the uptempo

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Firing Monty now probably accomplishes nothing. It probably makes the situation worse.

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It's so bad I honestly am not even sure if this statement is accurate. I'm not so sure that playing street ball is that much worse than playing Monty ball considering the talent we have on this roster.

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Firing Monty now probably accomplishes nothing. It probably makes the situation worse.

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Unless we're replacing him with an Assistant or Avery Johnson, I don't really see how it could be worse than what we have seen/are going to keep seeing. Monty does not get this team amped. He is an inept game manager, inept scheme creator, and an inept motivator. Our team lacks the level of faith or camaraderie that a properly coached team should have. It just seems like the guys at the end of the bench celebrate out of habit more than out of actual unity. The 5 that are on the court are always making plays and gaining momentum outside of any set scheme. They are the reason we are holding significant leads in ALL but 2 or 3 games up until now. I understand this team is newly assembled, but it seems very telling that the passion is absent in Monty and that the team has a hard time producing consistently. They have far too little leadership--the primary attribute of any coach. Monty acts as if being head coach is just a job to him, nothing more. Think about ANY time you have heard him talk. Did he appear to be the type of coach that would inspire you, make you believe in the plan for the team, get you pumped for the game? No. A resounding no. He is a monotonous, below-average coach. Probably a great assistant, just nothing like what an NBA coach should be.

It sucks, because this team has serious potential that is being written off by cliff-jumpers. We are (1) average-defending, sharpshooting SF and (1) average head coach away from being--at the very least--a shoe-in 8th seed. There is no doubt in my mind.

All that being said, the FO will wait until faith has reached the breaking point--both in the locker room and in the arena--until making a move, thereby potentially compounding the difficulty of the task at hand for Monty's successor. I just don't want the guys we have to lose faith in this franchise. EG is a huge provider of in-game momentum (second only to Davis), and if he gets apathetic (which we all know how easy THAT is for him), the other pieces are going to follow his lead much more than Monty's.

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If Karl was interested in coaching us this year, if I was the GM, Monty would already be fired.

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But if you were the GM Monty wouldn't have gotten you your job. I don't think Demps will fire Monty unless he gets to a point where he feels Monty's going to take him down with him. We aren't there yet, so if any hasty move happens it will probably have to come from Loomis.

My biggest fear is we make some dumbass trade to try to save Monty's job.

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Unless there is a Karl type lined up and ready to go I don't want Monty fired. I'm not sure an interim coach wouldn't just make things worse.

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Dell went to great lengths to assemble this roster. You HAVE to let someone else try to gel it if it's not working. The fanbase had high expectations this year and riding Monty is going to do nothing but piss everybody off. At least bringing somebody, anybody, in here, will give us a better idea of whether it's Monty's coaching or personnel issues.