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re: Don't fret, LSU fans...this run by Alabama will end soon...

Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:20 pm to
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I somewhat agree, but I think they have more talent than we do and certainly more depth. That one bad recruiting class will get covered over by the two great ones we will have from 2013 & 2014.

I definitely agree with both of those points. The point I was making is that in the first half at least, we hung with them and it would have been an interesting game without the Copeland fumble, the botched snap and the interference call that led to a TD on the next play. Eliminate those mistakes and I think we have the team to play with Bama despite their advantage in overall talent and depth.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:22 pm to
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What he is saying is why leave out the potential of Alabama hiring a Miles-type coach after Saban leaves, as opposed to Ron zook.
that's fair...Miles has done well, but Miles does not have the program on the same level as Saban. Bama fans may not be able to handle that decline...Saban's void will be huge...much bigger than when he left LSU.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:23 pm to
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Eliminate those mistakes and I think we have the team to play with Bama despite their advantage in overall talent and depth.


We would have had the chance to go up by two scores if those two turnovers are eliminated. Momentum on the road is huge.

I also think that the lack of depth shows at the end of games when our guys can't go at the speed they started with.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:23 pm to
You are doing God's work, Chicken
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34194 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:23 pm to
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Who was a game changer last year??? The starting unit was certainly better as a whole but there was no defensive superstar.



So im guessing the guy who went #6 overall in the draft wasnt a defensive superstar

Edit: Didn't want to mention Minter for fear of me apparently being fooled into thinking he was one of the best LB's in the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29026 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:25 pm to
So our strategy should be "wait Saban out" and this should bring comfort for the future?




Why don't we just figure out a way to beat the bastards WITH Saban?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:27 pm to
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Why don't we just figure out a way to beat the bastards WITH Saban?

Yeah! We could get a coalition together with all the other teams that can't beat him either. Wait....
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:29 pm to
We have been declining for about 3 years. Les has to get his shite together! Whole team needs to be coached up!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
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We have been declining for about 3 years
We are not 2 full seasons away from the greatest season I've ever seen.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3735 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:34 pm to
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CharlesLSU


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#1 - coaching personnel improvements with Brick, Raymond, and Stud out...sorry Corey:(

#2 - Shoring up recruiting, specifically lineman and backers.

#3 - Obsessive coaching of good tackling technique



lets focus on #3 this would have paid of in every game this year. it is also something that is in the coaches control, when you drill something into someone, it becomes second nature.
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:34 pm to
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Saban's void will be huge...much bigger than when he left LSU.





Agree

The pressure is on him to win a NC every year and at least make the SECCG every year, which is ridiculous. Not saying they can't do it most years, but the pressure is crazy on Saban. I expect him to leave/retire within the next 2 years
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:35 pm to
Good? Yes, but certainly not a superstar. 4.5 sacks over 13 games is a superstar??

Drafting is about potential as much as it is about previous production.
Posted by General13
Mobile
Member since Dec 2008
1363 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:36 pm to
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that's fair...Miles has done well, but Miles does not have the program on the same level as Saban. Bama fans may not be able to handle that decline...Saban's void will be huge...much bigger than when he left LSU.

The situation is unprecedented. Impossible to predict. While Sabans's void will be the only certain decline; said void being sustained is not. The regression to the mean must occur but what is the mean? Certainly not 3/4 NC's.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:36 pm to
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2. AJ McCarron won't be back. He has been the key to their run. He is the ultimate game manager, and his consistency is the reason they have only lost twice since he has been a starter. The next QB for Bama, regardless of the number of recruiting stars he had coming out of high school, will also have big shoes to fill.


This.

We were in that game and actually better than Bama right up to the point that AJ started hitting his passes.
I doubt that the next QB, no matter how talented, will be able to fill AJ's shoes.
Posted by JDax
Nashville,TN
Member since Nov 2006
83 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:37 pm to
In college football there are windows to compete for a championship (windows for everyone except for Alabama). 2005-2007 and 2010-2012 were windows for us. You'll see that 2015 will start another window for us.

Remember all those great FSU teams under Bobby Bowden won only 1 National Championship. The same can be said for Spurrier at Florida, and Carrol at USC. The fact that Saban is making it look easy. doesn't mean that it really is from a historical perspective.

I know that many of us have PTSD from 1/9/12 and 11/3/12 (11/3/12 hurt worse in my opinion), but perspective has never been the LSU fan base's strength. Les has done a decent job with the hand he was delt, however if the next championship window doesn't open in 2015, it might be time to seriously take a look at replacing Miles.

Keep the Faith, we will be back...

One cavet, if the defensive doesn't show signs of improvement next year, it might be time to part ways with the Chief.

Dax

Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:37 pm to
Lines on both sides of the ball SUCK. If the Asst. coaches cant coach them up, they need to go! I'm an old fart, I might not be around in 5 years
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66358 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:42 pm to
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Honestly, Les has to get rid of Raymond in my opinion. It's not a talent issue at DB right now. It isn't as great as before, but his coaching is just bad. DBs have all regressed with him at the helm.


There is talent at CB for sure, but at safety we have 1 5 star who hasn't panned out, and then nothing to write home about.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29026 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:42 pm to
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I'm an old fart, I might not be around in 5 years



C'MON NOW!
Posted by General13
Mobile
Member since Dec 2008
1363 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:45 pm to
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I definitely agree with both of those points. The point I was making is that in the first half at least, we hung with them and it would have been an interesting game without the Copeland fumble, the botched snap and the interference call that led to a TD on the next play. Eliminate those mistakes and I think we have the team to play with Bama despite their advantage in overall talent and depth.

I agree. I don't think the separation is as large as some think. The noticeable disadvantages were OLine and LB. The second half would have been much different if the early departures had not occurred.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:47 pm to
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The noticeable disadvantages were OLine
We really did not need the ripple cause by Faulk.
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