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Marvel Nerd Thread-Which franchise would add the most to the MCU(SPOILERS)
Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:51 pm
X-Men, FF or Spider-man?(IPs not owned by Marvel Studios)ETA: As in enrich the established universe the most?
I say the FF. Great supporting characters for huge blockbusters- their adventurers on the frontier.Especially going into space in Guardians world.(ETA:Plus Silver Surfer,Namor(I believe), Galactus,The Watcher,etc.) As much as I despise what Fox has done with the X-Men, at least now they seem to be interested in exploring characters not named Logan.
Spider-Man is great, but would he really add much to the MCU? He is more of a street level hero, although he can get weird. I think the addition of Norman Osborn is more a get for the MCU than Spidey,even though I love Spidey on the Avengers.
Last thing thoughts on casting the new Defenders line-up (Daredevil,Luke Cage,Iron Fist,Jessica Jones)...
Is Damian Lewis and his red hair the leading candidate for Matt Murdock?
I say the FF. Great supporting characters for huge blockbusters- their adventurers on the frontier.Especially going into space in Guardians world.(ETA:Plus Silver Surfer,Namor(I believe), Galactus,The Watcher,etc.) As much as I despise what Fox has done with the X-Men, at least now they seem to be interested in exploring characters not named Logan.
Spider-Man is great, but would he really add much to the MCU? He is more of a street level hero, although he can get weird. I think the addition of Norman Osborn is more a get for the MCU than Spidey,even though I love Spidey on the Avengers.
Last thing thoughts on casting the new Defenders line-up (Daredevil,Luke Cage,Iron Fist,Jessica Jones)...
Is Damian Lewis and his red hair the leading candidate for Matt Murdock?
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 3:08 pm
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:52 pm to RonBurgundy
X-Men
Bring in the X-Force. I want to see Psylocke kick done arse.
Bring in the X-Force. I want to see Psylocke kick done arse.
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:58 pm to Scruffy
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X-Men
Bring in the X-Force. I want to see Psylocke kick done arse.
I almost feel that the X-universe is too big for Marvel to focus on when they have the rest of the Marvel U that needs attention.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 1:39 pm to RonBurgundy
Dr. Strange has had his fingers in a lot of pies. Even though he was never one of my favorites, he has been in on some good stories, and he would tie in well with the Infinity Gauntlet.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 1:41 pm to Shiftyplus1
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Dr. Strange has had his fingers in a lot of pies. Even though he was never one of my favorites, he has been in on some good stories, and he would tie in well with the Infinity Gauntlet.
I should edit my thread to IPs not owned by Marvel Studios, Dr.Strange is almost a given for Phase 3.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 2:38 pm to RonBurgundy
1. Uncanny X-Force - Would make the best film
2. Thunderbolts
3. Heroes for Hire (Yeah, Yeah netflix, but Movie!)
4. Marvel Knights
5. Inhumans
2. Thunderbolts
3. Heroes for Hire (Yeah, Yeah netflix, but Movie!)
4. Marvel Knights
5. Inhumans
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 11/9/13 at 2:42 pm to RonBurgundy
Inhumans, though I think it's almost a given that we'll see them soon.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 2:45 pm to Freauxzen
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1. Uncanny X-Force - Would make the best film
2. Thunderbolts
3. Heroes for Hire (Yeah, Yeah netflix, but Movie!)
4. Marvel Knights
5. Inhumans
Maybe I should make the question more clear. Which IP not owned by Marvel Studios would most enrich the MCU. If you say X-force, how would their interactions and storylines blend the best with the established MCU?
ETA: Inhumans are definitely a group that makes sense. It opens up a lot. To me the FF and they way they flow in and out of different aspects of MU make them the the best property to add (and I don't even consider myself a FF fanboy).
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 11/9/13 at 3:52 pm to RonBurgundy
Well, I'd like to see FF just to be see if they CAN be done well on film. Nobody has managed it yet - even in cartoons.
As I always throw out when these discussions arise, I'd love to see The Champions (I know, me and nobody else)
Of course the more heroes in the shared universe, the more you'll get questions why they don't show up when the world is in peril in one another's films.
As I always throw out when these discussions arise, I'd love to see The Champions (I know, me and nobody else)
Of course the more heroes in the shared universe, the more you'll get questions why they don't show up when the world is in peril in one another's films.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 5:12 pm to RonBurgundy
He's had two movies, but I'd love to see a Ghost Rider movie based on the 90s comic. Gotta love the original, but the Danny Ketch Ghost Rider just took the concept to a whole another level.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 5:45 pm to smkspy
I could see Ghost Rider fitting in the Doc Strange/Blade corner of the Marvel U, but not as main guy. Then again, I never cared for Ghost Rider.
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 11/9/13 at 6:17 pm to RonBurgundy
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Which IP not owned by Marvel Studios would most enrich the MCU.
Are you sure the Inhumans are an FF film property?
If they are, that makes the FF being a better option for the MCU much more debatable especially as the Inhumans franchise itself is about to blow up big.
If Marvel does still own the film rights for them though, I don't think there's any way the FF can add more to the movie MCU than the X-Universe.
As has been said here, you have Uncanny X-Force.
You have Deadpool done right. Wolverine films of his past adventures with Capt America, Winter Soldier, etc..
The Shiar, Starjammers, Exacalibur, or X-Factor(good tv series idea).
There's just too much more to work with in the X-Universe.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 6:44 pm to RonBurgundy
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Maybe I should make the question more clear. Which IP not owned by Marvel Studios would most enrich the MCU. If you say X-force, how would their interactions and storylines blend the best with the established MCU?
So wait:
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Marvel Nerd Thread-Which franchise would add the most to the MCU(SPOILERS)
X-Men, FF or Spider-man?
You mea literally out of these three? I thought you meant what book.
Clearly it's X-Men, no contest. Civil War, for starters. Some of the best heroes, villains, story lines. All awesome.
Wolverine has some great chemistry with the likes of Hulk, Captain America, etc.
The X-Men and Avengers have had great storylines in Civil War, Secret Wars, AvX,
FF is ok, probably second best.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 7:44 pm to Freauxzen
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You mea literally out of these three? I thought you meant what book.
Clearly it's X-Men, no contest. Civil War, for starters. Some of the best heroes, villains, story lines. All awesome.
Wolverine has some great chemistry with the likes of Hulk, Captain America, etc.
The X-Men and Avengers have had great storylines in Civil War, Secret Wars, AvX,
FF is ok, probably second best
Yeah X-Men certainly is the deepest, but much like its comic counterpart, the X-universe is big enough that most of it doesn't necessarily interact with the main Marvel U. The FF have their hands in everything and the cast is small enough to incorporate into other films. I do wish Wolvie could interact with the MCU, he's better as an Avenger than as an X-Man.
Interesting no one has said Spider-Man, Marvel's most popular hero.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:51 pm to RonBurgundy
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Interesting no one has said Spider-Man, Marvel's most popular hero.
In 1995, maybe.
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:52 pm to Freauxzen
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In 1995, maybe.
Clone Wars for the win.
Or loss..
Posted on 11/10/13 at 1:11 am to RonBurgundy
They all have a lot to add:
1. X-men would alleviate the "challenges" associated with adding Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to the MCU without being able to mention how they have powers and who their father is, not to mention Wolverine's ties with SHIELD and Xavier's role in WW Hulk.
2. Spider-Man on his own isn't that significant in the MCU...until you factor in the impact Norman Osborn has with SHIELD, HAMMER, and SWORD.
3. The Fantastic Four is almost a must with the inclusion of She-Hulk and Reed Richards influence with the other scientists.
1. X-men would alleviate the "challenges" associated with adding Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to the MCU without being able to mention how they have powers and who their father is, not to mention Wolverine's ties with SHIELD and Xavier's role in WW Hulk.
2. Spider-Man on his own isn't that significant in the MCU...until you factor in the impact Norman Osborn has with SHIELD, HAMMER, and SWORD.
3. The Fantastic Four is almost a must with the inclusion of She-Hulk and Reed Richards influence with the other scientists.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 1:27 am to CGSC Lobotomy
IF they want to do Civil War properly(which I THINK the MCU's ultimate goal would be) then yes you got to throw a Texas with a dollar sign in front of it to the owners of X-men.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:13 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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3. The Fantastic Four is almost a must with the inclusion of She-Hulk and Reed Richards influence with the other scientists.
I'd think She-Hulk would be one of those kind of "fits two places" characters. She is, I think most closely related with the Hulk, being Bruce Banner's cousin. And she has been a member of both The Avengers and the FF. Not sure who has the rights to her. May be one of those Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch things where she fits both companies.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 12:18 pm to Methuselah
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I'd think She-Hulk would be one of those kind of "fits two places" characters. She is, I think most closely related with the Hulk, being Bruce Banner's cousin. And she has been a member of both The Avengers and the FF. Not sure who has the rights to her. May be one of those Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch things where she fits both companies.
when I think of She-Hulk, it's with the FF at this point. I believe the rights issues is some sort of combination of first appearance and most appearances in these flagship books. Namor is a tough one two, although I think Marvel has the rights to him now, he's been a X-Man,an Avenger,an Invader (Cap should have had two movies pre Avengers), Fantastic Four, etc.
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 12:19 pm
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