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Reproductive Rights Discussion - Men get a raw deal
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:15 am
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:15 am
After some thoughts I began to realize that men get a raw deal about reproductive rights and I want it to change.
Consider that a couple with a physical relationship who are unexpectedly pregnant, the woman is the only one with power.
She can decide to have an abortion or sign up for an adoptive service without even a thought to what the father wants.
The man has no rights, he is obligated to honor her decision no matter what.
If she doesn't want to be a mother she has many options, an unwilling father has basically no ability to discharge his parental responsibilities the way he could if he had just been born a woman.
Therefore this system should change, men should have the right to discharge parental rights to the same extent that women can.
Consider that a couple with a physical relationship who are unexpectedly pregnant, the woman is the only one with power.
She can decide to have an abortion or sign up for an adoptive service without even a thought to what the father wants.
The man has no rights, he is obligated to honor her decision no matter what.
If she doesn't want to be a mother she has many options, an unwilling father has basically no ability to discharge his parental responsibilities the way he could if he had just been born a woman.
Therefore this system should change, men should have the right to discharge parental rights to the same extent that women can.
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:17 am to MagicCityBlazer
I've been saying this for about 30 years now.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:17 am to MagicCityBlazer
Everything is catered to women voters.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:19 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
I've been saying this for about 30 years now.
I'm new to the party.
I wish more men would speak out about this, because this current system encourages bad behavior by women.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:29 am to MagicCityBlazer
If a woman can terminate her pregnancy because she can't be bothered, a man should be able to terminate his financial duty to the child, because he can't be bothered.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:30 am to MagicCityBlazer
Men do speak out about it, they just all happen to be chauvinistic pigs not worth listening to.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:31 am to MagicCityBlazer
I've been saying this for a long time. If women can have abortions then men prior to birth should be able to opt out of child support.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:31 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
If a woman can terminate her pregnancy because she can't be bothered, a man should be able to terminate his financial duty to the child, because he can't be bothered.
pretty much this.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:33 am to MagicCityBlazer
Not true. You can go to court and give up all rights to the child. In doing so, however, you will never, ever be able to see that child again or gain parental rights to it.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:33 am to AUin02
quote:And wusses.
Men do speak out about it, they just all happen to be chauvinistic pigs not worth listening to.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:34 am to bluestem75
quote:
Not true. You can go to court and give up all rights to the child. In doing so, however, you will never, ever be able to see that child again or gain parental rights to it.
I'm not familiar with this, as there have been plenty of famous men who had serious child-support bills and they never thought of this?
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:35 am to bluestem75
quote:
Not true. You can go to court and give up all rights to the child. In doing so, however, you will never, ever be able to see that child again or gain parental rights to it.
However, the mother has to release you from financial responsibility.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:35 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:Because the woman is the only one who is pregnant.
Consider that a couple with a physical relationship who are unexpectedly pregnant, the woman is the only one with power.
quote:You should be the one to change. That would be the best solution to this.
Therefore this system should change, men should have the right to discharge parental rights to the same extent that women can.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:35 am to MagicCityBlazer
Are you kidding? We can't even get a fair shake in front of judges during divorce proceedings with our young children. I don't see anyway we get any say so about our child in the womb.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:38 am to ballscaster
quote:
Because the woman is the only one who is pregnant.
Is she? Because there is another person in that picture necessary for her to become so. It isn't all about her.
quote:
You should be the one to change. That would be the best solution to this.
Why? If women got the short end of the stick society would have a stroke; men get the short stick and nobody cares.
I won't lie down for that fight.
It's time for change.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:40 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:
Why? If women got the short end of the stick society would have a stroke; men get the short stick and nobody cares.
I won't lie down for that fight.
It's time for change.
Equality and fairness for all!
It's time to end this War on Men
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:41 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:Repeat the part in bold to yourself about a million times.
Why? If women got the short end of the stick society would have a stroke; men get the short stick and nobody cares.
quote:Yes you will.
I won't lie down for that fight.
quote:Get to it.
It's time for change.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:43 am to MagicCityBlazer
To be fair, we sometimes read about the dude that has fathered 30 children (just a sample number). Women are far less capable of causing that level of birth.
So, for instance: a dude COULD father a child every week for 70 years....a chick? no way.
There is responsibility there. I have never seen the issue with taking responsibility for my actions. And, when one doesn't...he places himself at the mercy of someone ELSE's decision.
I've had MANY friends suggest that it is unfair that blacks seem to get harsher sentences in criminal outcomes. I simply counter with "it has been very easy for me to avoid being arrested. Thus, I do not place myself into that 'unfair' decision tree"
So, for instance: a dude COULD father a child every week for 70 years....a chick? no way.
There is responsibility there. I have never seen the issue with taking responsibility for my actions. And, when one doesn't...he places himself at the mercy of someone ELSE's decision.
I've had MANY friends suggest that it is unfair that blacks seem to get harsher sentences in criminal outcomes. I simply counter with "it has been very easy for me to avoid being arrested. Thus, I do not place myself into that 'unfair' decision tree"
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:46 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:^^^A man. ^^^
I simply counter with "it has been very easy for me to avoid being arrested. Thus, I do not place myself into that 'unfair' decision tree"
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:47 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
There is responsibility there. I have never seen the issue with taking responsibility for my actions. And, when one doesn't...he places himself at the mercy of someone ELSE's decision.
Why should one equal have so much power over another?
How is it that between two equals one has responsibility (the man), and the other has the choices (the woman).
It is not a fair system, and it needs to change.
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