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WH knews that 93M would lose current HC Plans


Loving the drip drip drip of information....

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To counter accusations that the President lied when he repeatedly told Americans they can keep their health insurance plans if they liked them, the administration has claimed that he was referring to the millions of people covered by their employers.

An article from Forbes Thursday thoroughly refutes this claiming that Obama officials back in 2010 predicted that 93 million Americans would have their plans cancelled as a result of ObamaCare including a vast amount of those with employer-sponsored plans:




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[T]he administration’s commentary in the Federal Register did not only refer to the individual market, but also the market for employer-sponsored health insurance.

Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains what’s called a “grandfather” provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.

“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34552. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and get canceled. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.




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gatorrocks
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The political commercials in 2014 are going to be gold, Jerry, GOLD!





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dante
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Fundamental Transformation.





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DeltaDoc
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The fact that this travesty was originally slated to begin after the 2012 elections is all you needed to know.





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Chimlim
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Obama's plan working to perfection.

Gain public support for Obamacare by claiming "You can keep your insurance if you like it." When it couldn't be further from the truth.

Implement policies that make it difficult for people to continue to receive their coverage through their employer.

Suddenly many Americans who were covered under their employer will have no health coverage.

Where will they turn?

Single payer here we come.

To Obama and Democrats, businesses that offer health coverage to employees are their enemy.



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doubleb
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It is going full circle, and it all depends on what the word "is" means.

Is the mainstream media ever going to say enough is enough and hold these people accountable?

The regime has lied, and abused their power time after time and even though the power of the press is one of the few means to keep power in check; the media refuses to go after Obama and his crowd.

This regime is going to make Bill Clinton's lie seem like nothing. These people are out of control and so arrogant that I believe they think they can get away with most anything.






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idlewatcher
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".....but what I really meant was"





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Lsut81
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The political commercials in 2014 are going to be gold, Jerry, GOLD!



One would hope... But the Republicans are too fricking stupid to handle anything correctly.






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All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and get canceled.

Any plan younger than three and a half years will not qualify for the grandfather clause. It is crazy how this is finally starting to be acknowledged, despite the fact that providers have been changing their rates/plans in anticipation of the ACA implementation since it was passed in 2010.

Also considering the fact that the recession led millions and millions to alter their plans, it is no surprise that many are upset they will not get to keep their plan.

It is a surprise, however, that the grandfather clause stipulations were mostly unknown until a month ago, when this should have been a talking point from the get-go.






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dante
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The Affordable Health Care Act is only affordable for those who couldn't afford insurance in the first place.....now they can only afford it because the rest of us are paying for it.





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Taxing Authority
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No way. Obama read about it in the news.





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Lsut81
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.now they can only afford it because the rest of us are paying for it.


Yup... And the mantra from the supporters turned opponents is "I was for it before I realized I would have to pay for it"






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dante
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How anyone thought the cost of insurance was going to go down by adding 30 million new people. Many who couldn't afford it or had some pre-existing condition that prevented them from having it.





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Not only adding 30 million new people, but running off many of the young healthy people who will just pay the penalty. Anyone who thought this would work is borderline mentally retarded.





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WH knews that 93M would lose current HC Plans


Is this impeachable?






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CajunAngele
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WH knews

WH news

WH knew






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Wild Thang
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The democrat party is burning before our very eyes.

Forward!!'






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NBC Gives Only 21 Seconds to Scoop That Obama Knew People Would Lose Health Plans; ABC and CBS Ignore


Alexander provided a mere twenty-one seconds of air time for the revelation: "That millions will lose or have to change their individual policies is not a surprise to the administration. NBC News senior investigative correspondent Lisa Myers found buried in the 2010 ObamaCare regulations, language predicting, 'A reasonable range for the percentage of individual policies that would terminate is forty percent to sixty-seven percent.'"

Alexander made sure to wrap up his report by parroting administration spin: "And White House officials insist they have always said insurance policies could change to offer more benefits. And to emphasize the affordability tonight, the administration says nearly half of all uninsured single young adults could get health coverage for $50 a month...or less."

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Mary Landrieu (D., La.), locked in a competitive reelection race against Rep. Bill Cassidy (R., La.), now claims that she was unaware that Obamacare would disrupt existing insurance arrangements. “It was our understanding when we voted for that bill that people when they have insurance could keep with what they had. So I’m going to be working on that fix,” she said on Wednesday.

But that’s not accurate. It was well known, as far back as 2009, that millions of Americans would lose their existing coverage under the Obamacare bill. Landrieu still voted for it.

. . .

Landrieu’s flip-flop illustrates the potency of this issue. If Americans were truly being forced off of their existing insurance plans—that they like—and into better and more affordable ones, the outcry would be minimal. But that isn’t what’s happening. People are being forced into inferior and costlier plans. And they’re making their displeasure felt in Washington.

Duh. You have to pass it to see what's in it, Mary!

Link to original article, which is more informative than NewsBusters: LINK /






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Wild Thang
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I guess Mary should have read the law before voting for it





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