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Report: HS players twice as likely to suffer concussions as college players
Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:11 am
Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:11 am
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With high school football playoffs starting around the country, a leading medical body on Wednesday released a 306-page, NFL-funded report that found the sport not only has by far the highest rates of concussions at the interscholastic level, but also that the average high school player is nearly twice as likely to suffer a brain injury as a college player.
A panel of medical experts convened by the National Academy of Sciences analyzed a series of academic studies, with the most recent showing that college football players suffer concussions at a rate of 6.3 concussions per 10,000 "athletic exposures" -- each exposure representing a practice or game. For high school football players, the comparable figure is 11.2.
Reported H.S. Concussion Rates
Rates per 10,000 athletic exposures, as reported by athletic trainers, by sport:
Sport Boys Girls
Football 11.2 NA
Lacrosse 6.9 5.2
Soccer 4.2 6.7
Wrestling 6.2 NA
Basketball 2.8 5.6
Field Hockey NA 4.2
Softball NA 1.6
Baseball 1.2 NA
Source: National Academy of Sciences, Datalys Center (2010-12)
The report noted that most concussion symptoms disappear within two weeks as measured by current testing tools but that 10 to 20 percent of concussion sufferers "are still experiencing symptoms anywhere from weeks to months to years later." Across sports, 250,000 concussions were reported to emergency rooms in 2009 for people under age 19, up from 150,000 in 2001.
The findings are likely to heighten safety questions about football at the high school level, where athletes of varying levels of physical maturity -- some boys, some men -- collide with each other. High school athletes also lack the standard of care that is afforded to college and pro players, who have teams of neurologists and other medical experts managing their injuries. Many high schools cannot afford athletic trainers or proper equipment.
However, the report authors concluded that there's no evidence that even the latest helmet technology prevents brain injury -- challenging a notion held by many parents and coaches.
"The findings of our report justify the concerns about sports concussions in young people," said Robert Graham, chair of the committee and director of the national program office for Aligning Forces for Quality at George Washington University. "However, there are numerous areas in which we need more and better data. Until we have that information, we urge parents, schools, athletic departments and the public to examine carefully what we do know, as with any decision regarding risk, so they can make more informed decisions about young athletes playing sports."
Funding for the study was provided to the Centers for Disease Control Foundation by the NFL, which contributed $75,000 through the NFL Foundation.
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:30 am to Jim Rockford
I would def believe this. Young, growing bodies and brains dealing with violent, jarring collisions.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:32 am to Jim Rockford
Why are the rates for girls higher across the board? Probably because they run around all uncoordinated and knock heads.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:34 am to The Boat
or less muscle mass in the neck to act as a shock absorber, so more of a whiplash effect.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:42 am to chesty
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I would def believe this. Young, growing bodies and brains dealing with violent, jarring collisions.
There was an interesting study a while back that measured the force experienced by a brain for football players of different age groups. The surprising thing was the youngest guys in pee wee could experience some very significant brain impacts - perhaps because their big heads and little necks are a dangerous combination (just falling down when running or after being hit could make for a bigger than expected impact)
You'll notice hockey data isn't so commonly shared/studied and that soccer has a significant number of concussions (from head to head collisions perhaps)
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:27 am to Jim Rockford
Not shocking at all. I was 5'4" 135 my freshman year of HS. had I tried to play football, I probably would have been the first one concussed.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:45 am to LSUzealot
I had a few instances of my ears ringing after tackles and whatnot. Never went "out" completely. My brother played in games where he "got his bell rung," as they used to call it, and has no memory of anything that happened in the game. Our mother wouldn't have let us play if she'd known any of that. Her oldest grandson will be old enough to go out for football next year, and she's none too happy about it. I expect a lot of tension as the time gets closer.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 4:52 pm to Jim Rockford
Still remember one game in high school. I was about a good 5'10 230. I was blindsided by a mammoth who was about 6'7 360. Went on to star at UF. He hit me so hard I flipped in the air and laid on the ground motionless for 5 seconds. I thought i died and came back to life lol. But nonetheless, i got up dizzy as hell and played the next snap. Looking back on it i had to have gotten a concussion that day, i had the worst headache throughout the rest of the game and that night. I think my coaches shouldnt of allowed me to continue regardless of me saying "no coach im fine im fine i swear".
But the worst part of that whole ordeal was to hear my mom talk about how hard i got hit. Quite embarrasing actually
But the worst part of that whole ordeal was to hear my mom talk about how hard i got hit. Quite embarrasing actually
Posted on 10/31/13 at 4:55 pm to QJenk
Concussions will be this generations knee injuries
"I wouldve been 1st string all state and gone D1, but i got a concussion from hitting a guy so hard that they wouldnt let me play again"
"I wouldve been 1st string all state and gone D1, but i got a concussion from hitting a guy so hard that they wouldnt let me play again"
Posted on 10/31/13 at 5:04 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:I wish we weren't talking about HS chicks so I could suggest a way for them to strengthen it.
or less muscle mass in the neck to act as a shock absorber, so more of a whiplash effect.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 5:07 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
Posted on 10/31/13 at 5:08 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
Across sports, 250,000 concussions were reported to emergency rooms in 2009 for people under age 19, up from 150,000 in 2001.
Only problem I have with that article is this. Concussions are up from 2001 in college and NFL football too, not just high school sports. And thats because now they take a hit to the head/ when a player get "knocked silly" with way more caution, and they should. Its up everywhere. And also, coaches,trainers,doctors,etc are more cautious with ANY injury with a high school kid, especially with hits to the head. Now a days if a high school kid gets hit in the head and is a little woozy and out of it, its called a concussion. Sometimes it is, other times its not.
I had 3 legit concussions in high school from 2004-2008. Basically had a concussion every season except my senior season. Crazy thing is that only 1 of them came from a helmet to helmet collision. The other 2 came from hitting the ground. I was a FS and on the other 2 times it was when i laid out to defend a pass and my head whiplashed onto the ground. And I never had a concussion because of a head on it. All of them were from shots to the side of my head.
Was almost in jeopardy of not being to play my senior season.It was right around the time all the concussion info starting coming out and when the new style of helmets came out(Revolutions, DNA,etc) and I had to get 1 of those helmets in order to play. And they actually do help prevent concussions better than the old style riddel helmets.The sides of the head and jaw line are better protected because the side of the helmet extends passed the jaw line. With the old helmets the bottom of the jaw line was sort of exposed. The article said there is no evidence in helmet technology that can prevent head injuries. And thats true. But, nothing will 100% completely prevent a head injury in football. Its just the nature of the sport. Its the ultimate collision sport. I mean there is no way to 100% prevent a Nascar player from getting in a wreck and getting injured. Nothing to prevent a hockey player from getting a head injury either. Its just how it is. Sports arent for everyone. If you dont want to risk getting injured, possibly very seriously injured too, then dont play.
I also had the opportunities to play college football after high school and wanted to, badly. Doctors all told me that they dont think I should be able to play at the next level, and once the doctor told that to my high school coach, and high school coach told that to the colleges, the offers disappeared. No school, especially now, wants to take the risk of taking a young man with chronic concussions issues.
And back then all I wanted to do was play football and didnt care if i had concussion,injuries,etc. Football was my life and what I did year round since i was in 5th grade. I was extremely angry at the doctors for telling the schools about my concussions and causing me to not play college football. I was angry about it til about a year ago honestly. Now that Im older, I appreciate what the Doctors did for me and glad they took caution. Do I still wish I could of played?? Yes of course. But, with all this crazy stuff coming out about concussions and all that Im thankful I didnt. And now I hate listening to people talk about the problems with concussions and how severe it can be and what it can cause down the road. Scares the hell out of me.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 10/31/13 at 5:11 pm to KG5989
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I also had the opportunities to play college football after high school and wanted to, badly. Doctors all told me that they dont think I should be able to play at the next level, and once the doctor told that to my high school coach, and high school coach told that to the colleges, the offers disappeared
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"I wouldve been 1st string all state and gone D1, but i got a concussion from hitting a guy so hard that they wouldnt let me play again"
Totally called it!!!!
ETA just messing with youbtw
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 10/31/13 at 5:30 pm to wildtigercat93
Haha no its cool 
. And I wasnt going D1 either haha. I had the opportunity to walk on at smaller D1 schools, but no offers.
And never said I got concussions from crushing people haha. 2/3 I had were caused by the fricking ground haha. The other 1 I was tackling a player and it was nice form so my head was on the RBs right hip, sticking out a little, and a teammate of mine comes flying in from the side where my head is and just crushes me on the side of my head with a helmet to helmet hit. Head was basically caught between the opponents body and my teammates. That was the worst 1 I had BY FAR.
So yea no kill shots caused me to get a concussion, the ground and a teammate did
. And I wasnt going D1 either haha. I had the opportunity to walk on at smaller D1 schools, but no offers. And never said I got concussions from crushing people haha. 2/3 I had were caused by the fricking ground haha. The other 1 I was tackling a player and it was nice form so my head was on the RBs right hip, sticking out a little, and a teammate of mine comes flying in from the side where my head is and just crushes me on the side of my head with a helmet to helmet hit. Head was basically caught between the opponents body and my teammates. That was the worst 1 I had BY FAR.
So yea no kill shots caused me to get a concussion, the ground and a teammate did
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 10/31/13 at 5:52 pm to chesty
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I would def believe this. Young, growing bodies and brains dealing with violent, jarring collisions.
Sprinkle in equipment purchased using a public schools budget (AKA last years model) along with coaches that are not as experienced (not saying they are not trying to keep the kids safe) along with officials who are stretched too thin, along with kids having the "ill never play at the next level, suck it up" mentality.
this cant be surprising to anyone right?
Posted on 10/31/13 at 10:08 pm to Jim Rockford
All well and good, and I'm happy that there is more attention
being paid to this. That said, what about the huge numbers of people who have played high school football for generations? It's got to be millions. Overall, they are fine. A large number of adult males, especially over age 30 or so, played football in school. They are by and large normal.
Hard to compare 10 years in the NFL with a few years of high school football, and it seems that is being done more and more. People talk about not letting kids play ball in high school because of Dave Duerson or Junior Seau. I've got to think those guys took more blows on a couple of sunday afternoons than a high school kid does in a season.
I had a couple of concussions as a kid , and I know of plenty others. And that was using the standards of back in the day. No illl effects that I know of.
I have 2 sons playing high school football now. I'm pleased that concussions are taken more seriously than they were. I'm especially excited about the attention being paid to recovery time after an episode -- i think that is huge. I'm am afraid, though, that there is some sensationalism going on that may basically kill off contact sports.
being paid to this. That said, what about the huge numbers of people who have played high school football for generations? It's got to be millions. Overall, they are fine. A large number of adult males, especially over age 30 or so, played football in school. They are by and large normal.
Hard to compare 10 years in the NFL with a few years of high school football, and it seems that is being done more and more. People talk about not letting kids play ball in high school because of Dave Duerson or Junior Seau. I've got to think those guys took more blows on a couple of sunday afternoons than a high school kid does in a season.
I had a couple of concussions as a kid , and I know of plenty others. And that was using the standards of back in the day. No illl effects that I know of.
I have 2 sons playing high school football now. I'm pleased that concussions are taken more seriously than they were. I'm especially excited about the attention being paid to recovery time after an episode -- i think that is huge. I'm am afraid, though, that there is some sensationalism going on that may basically kill off contact sports.
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