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Jason Campbell - Most shafted recent NFL QB?
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:48 pm
So, every so often, you get a guy in the league who seems to play pretty decent when given the chance. However, he keeps getting passed over for the next new thing.
I feel Rich Gannon fits this mold. As a career backup, he did pretty well every time I saw him come in on the Chiefs, and then he finally got his shot.
Jason Campbell didn't light the world on fire by any means, but he had some good years late with the Redskins, then was doing well with the Raiders (THE RAIDERS!) until he got hurt.
This past week, he throws for 300 and 2 TDs for the Browns. He was their THIRD option at the position.
Let's discuss this phenomenon, or not? Why does it happen? Is there a default "narrative" for certain QBs or did he (and others) do something negatively on a personal level to get such treatment.
He is only 31 years old BTW.
I feel Rich Gannon fits this mold. As a career backup, he did pretty well every time I saw him come in on the Chiefs, and then he finally got his shot.
Jason Campbell didn't light the world on fire by any means, but he had some good years late with the Redskins, then was doing well with the Raiders (THE RAIDERS!) until he got hurt.
This past week, he throws for 300 and 2 TDs for the Browns. He was their THIRD option at the position.
Let's discuss this phenomenon, or not? Why does it happen? Is there a default "narrative" for certain QBs or did he (and others) do something negatively on a personal level to get such treatment.
He is only 31 years old BTW.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:50 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
The matt flynn award?
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:50 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Teams know that he's not the guy to take them to the next level. He's a nice stand in, but he's not the guy to build a team around.
I like him, FWIW. He should have a starting job over the likes of Gabbert, Palmer, etc.
I like him, FWIW. He should have a starting job over the likes of Gabbert, Palmer, etc.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:51 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
It's definitely because he is black
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:51 pm to wildtigercat93
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The matt flynn award?
Matt Flynn had one (or two) good games.
This guy has had many more than that but sits behind inferior talent routinely it appears.
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I like him, FWIW. He should have a starting job over the likes of Gabbert, Palmer, etc.
Right, he doesn't even get the "stand in" consideration you'd think he'd get over some really awful QBs.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:53 pm to PapaPogey
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Kyle Orton
Good selection as well. He was capable of putting up some monsters numbers and then told he sucked the day after.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:53 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
i guess it's because they know what he is. they wanna try and strike gold on an unknown or some shite rather than have below average jason campbell be their long term starter.
roster decisions and shite in sports have a lot of flaws. this keeps becoming more and more obvious as the years and statistical analysis growth continue.
roster decisions and shite in sports have a lot of flaws. this keeps becoming more and more obvious as the years and statistical analysis growth continue.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:55 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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i guess it's because they know what he is. they wanna try and strike gold on an unknown or some shite rather than have below average jason campbell be their long term starter.
My only conclusion I can draw that its this coupled with a preference to either boom or bust. If you boom you boom, if you bust, at least you get sweet draft picks.
If Campbell gets you 8-10 wins, you get a shite pick and an entrenched starter with some fan support and a contract that would be difficult to jettison for rebuilding purposes.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:57 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Doesn't Vince young have a winning percentage over 60?
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:58 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Dude was also in like 5 different (at least) offensive systems.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:59 pm to St Augustine
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Dude was also in like 5 different (at least) offensive systems.
I think he was 3 for 3 his first three NFL seasons and 2 for 2 his last two years in college learning a new system. Something absurd like that.
I definitely believe that certain players are "ruined" by their organization they get drafted into.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:59 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Who are the QBs teams have chosen over Campbell? I can't think of them off the top of my head (that alone let's you know it's not a stellar list).
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:01 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Campbell was the starter in Washington for the better part of 3 seasons, also got a long look in Oakland.
He's had plenty of opportunity. He's a good 2nd string QB, plays well in relief but over the long hall he's Don Strock.
You youngsters can look him up.
He's had plenty of opportunity. He's a good 2nd string QB, plays well in relief but over the long hall he's Don Strock.
You youngsters can look him up.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:02 pm to PKTiger
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Who are the QBs teams have chosen over Campbell?
Brandon Weeden
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:03 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Doesn't Vince young have a winning percentage over 60?
He had a little 2011 Tebow run his rookie season that noone ever talks about
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:03 pm to PKTiger
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Who are the QBs teams have chosen over Campbell? I can't think of them off the top of my head (that alone let's you know it's not a stellar list).
This year, Hoyer and Weeden.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:04 pm to PKTiger
I guess you could say:
Buffalo before EJ
Kansas City for a number of years
Oakland of course
Who QBed Washington after him before RGIII? Rex Grossman?
I might throw in the Vikings. Ponderer was a reach
Arizona obviously
Seattle before Russel wilson
Cleveland of course
I think that is a pretty accurate list of teams that could have had him when he was available/before they put a down payment on a hopeful QB candidate.
Buffalo before EJ
Kansas City for a number of years
Oakland of course
Who QBed Washington after him before RGIII? Rex Grossman?
I might throw in the Vikings. Ponderer was a reach
Arizona obviously
Seattle before Russel wilson
Cleveland of course
I think that is a pretty accurate list of teams that could have had him when he was available/before they put a down payment on a hopeful QB candidate.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:04 pm to TreyAnastasio
Because Jason Campbell is about as mediocre as you can get. Teams would rather tank and have a chance at drafting a franchise QB high than consistently go 7-9 or 8-8 and end up with a crappy pick.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:06 pm to xenythx
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Because Jason Campbell is about as mediocre as you can get. Teams would rather tank and have a chance at drafting a franchise QB high than consistently go 7-9 or 8-8 and end up with a crappy pick.
Its better to be young and suck with good measurables than to actually perform decently at all. You end up in the nether region that is Campbell's existence.
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