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Thoughts on Jon Gruden

Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:44 pm
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:44 pm
I've been reading a good bit about the drama with Greg Schiano and the Buccaneers. Obviously, the players don't respect the man, and he's been made out to be a real jerk-off, according to former and current players, as well as others who have been around him. Obviously if the Bucs' season continues like it has, he's not going to be in Tampa much longer, so the "Who's going to be the new coach in Tampa?" questions will start to arise.

And my thought process is, why not bring back Jon Gruden? Sure, Gruden has plenty of detractors. They say he won a Super Bowl with a team that Tony Dungy built. To me, the fact that he was able to win a Super Bowl period shouldn't be tarnished, it's hard as hell to win a Super Bowl, and the man deserves credit for that. Sure, his years in Tampa after that Super Bowl season were mediocre, the Bucs won the NFC South twice between 2003-2008, but failed to win any playoff games.

So, to me, given his overall track record, why not bring Gruden back to Tampa? To me, he's wasting his talent as a coach by being a broadcaster, nothing against his broadcasting skills, he knows the game of football and provides good commentary, but to me, the man was born to be a coach. Has Tampa improved since Gruden left? Nope, they haven't even made the playoffs once since he left. As far as I know, the players respected Gruden probably a lot more than they respect Schiano, and the Buccaneers in general had much more success with Gruden than they have had with Raheem Morris and Schiano. So to me, I would give Gruden another shot if he were up to it. Now, that's not to say I would root for the Bucs if he came back, I'm still a die-hard Saints fan and I definitely would not want the Bucs to do well, especially since they're in the Saints' division. But to me, Bucs' fans should be hoping for Gruden, I would think he could turn that team around and possibly have more lasting, continual success than his first go-round.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37581 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:46 pm to
He's waiting for the LSU job to open
Posted by LasVegasBandit
Member since Sep 2013
1881 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:46 pm to
I think Gruden is smarter than people realize and enjoys working 20 hours a week for 20 weeks with no pressure for 5 million a year as opposed to 70 hours a week for 50 weeks with INSANE amounts of pressure for $8 million a year.

This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 6:48 pm
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:46 pm to
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So, to me, given his overall track record, why not bring Gruden back to Tampa?



He don't want the job
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422412 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:46 pm to
that guy's a football announcer
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

I think Gruden is smarter than people realize and enjoys working 20 hours a week with no pressure for 5 million a year as opposed to 70 hours a week with INSANE amounts of pressure for $8 million a year.


Exactly.

And can you blame the guy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422412 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:48 pm to
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And can you blame the guy?


frick no

i can't believe he's satisfied with it...HOW-EVA, i think he does put in insane hours for a broadcaster
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26989 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

I think Gruden is smarter than people realize and enjoys working 20 hours a week for 20 weeks with no pressure for 5 million a year as opposed to 70 hours a week for 50 weeks with INSANE amounts of pressure for $8 million a year.




This.

Ain't nothing wrong with being the next John Madden. And hell Vermeil was an analyst for years before taking the Ram job. So he can still get the itch years down the road and give it a shot.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80174 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:50 pm to
He would make saban tap out
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141888 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

working 20 hours a week for 20 weeks with no pressure for 5 million a year as opposed to 70 hours a week for 50 weeks with INSANE amounts of pressure for $8 million a year
This is the reason to ignore all those Peyton will be a coach threads
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:52 pm to
Chick in his Hooters commercial is fiyah
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
4439 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

that guy's a football announcer


I see what you did there, very nice.

The dude is probably the most enjoyable color commentator of all time. Hope he never leaves the booth...unless of course the LSU job opens up
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:55 pm to
He's one of the few I wouldn't mind replacing Miles. Could you imagine the battles we would have with Gruden vs Saban?? Sign me up
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37581 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 6:58 pm to
No, in not going to imagine it because it's not happening
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64197 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 7:05 pm to
Dude has one of the best jobs on the planet. Travel around during the season, eat at great restaurants, stay at nice places, shoot the shite with some of that weeks coaches and teams, watch some film /do a little prep work. During the game do your thing and people love you, frick up and those people still live you.

During the off season grill a couple of young rookies, then say you're a fan of literally every single one of them.

Profit.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

He's waiting for the LSU job to open
This is more true than you would think.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Thoughts on Jon Gruden


He likes everybody
Posted by Grouper Picatta
Sarasota,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1590 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 7:45 pm to
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quote: He's waiting for the LSU job to open


I would love to see this happen. No doubt the guy has passion for the game. Old Seal Hands clapper doesn't impress me.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 7:49 pm to
Gruden is obviously the answer to everyone's coaching problem.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 7:49 pm to
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They say he won a Super Bowl with a team that Tony Dungy built.


In fairness, Bill Callahan (?sp) went to the same Super Bowl with the team Gruden built.
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