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Tony Romo vs Cam Newton "debate"

Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:36 pm
Right before the season started, I had to do the unthinkable and sort of "defend" Romeo

A few guys were arguing (Gyno, auyushu, Amos, PortCityTiger, Fox, but who's counting...) that Cam was more valuable in every league and a better choice than Romo. I said that Romo had about the same points as Cam last season and that it would likely be the same this season.

The big difference is how many rounds earlier you would have to take Cam. But I was told over and over how much better Cam would be to own.

So far in our league (6 pts for all TD's):
Newton - 64 points
Romeo - 119

Newton was drafted in the 6th round and Romo was drafted in the 9th round. Last year the difference was even worse; Cam was taken in 4th and Romo in 9th I think.

Yes, this is a "see I told you" "nanny nanny booboo" thread
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:41 pm to
Congrats? Romo is also doing much better than Tom Brady. Did you predict that one too?

ETA: Also this wasn't true for 4 pt passing TD leagues
quote:

I said that Romo had about the same points as Cam last season
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 9:43 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:45 pm to
Romo has played 5 games and Newton has played 4.

Newton was averaging 23.6 per week coming into this week. Romo was averaging 21.6

Can't beat a good "I told ya so" in week 5
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:49 pm to
What round did you draft Rivers in you little guru you?
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Congrats? Romo is also doing much better than Tom Brady. Did you predict that one too?

WTF does Romeo have to do with Brady when the debate was concerning Romo and Cam?

quote:

ETA: Also this wasn't true for 4 pt passing TD leagues

They were not far off even in 4 pt leagues and the difference in round drafted is huge. I guess you don't get that?

Also:
quote:

I said that Romo had about the same points as Cam last season
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

What round did you draft Rivers in you little guru you?






I'm just stoked I actually got a couple of you to come back

I was lucky and drafted P. Manning in the 2nd round, so I'm loving this season so far.

Anyway, it may only be week 5 but the point still stands. In my league, the same guy who drafted Romo in the 9th is who drafted Newton in the 6th and guess who he's starting?

PS I did draft Rivers in the 14th in another league
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Romo has played 5 games and Newton has played 4.


I know, still fun to do it right after a huge week by Romo
quote:

Newton was averaging 23.6 per week coming into this week. Romo was averaging 21.6


Yeah, let's just go ahead and drop week 5 for both QB's.
quote:

Can't beat a good "I told ya so" in week 5

Agreed
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 10:31 pm
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:32 pm to
Romo went in the 6th in both of my leagues, one of them to me.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:37 pm to
I hope my incessant talk that Romo would be as good or better before the season led to this
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

I hope my incessant talk that Romo would be as good or better before the season led to this


Had Cam been there in the 6th, I would've picked Cam.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:08 pm to
Romo has been the most underrated fantasy player over the last 5 years. He has lit it up for me in several leagues bc people around here think he sucks so you can always grab him later than where he should be taken.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:26 pm to
He gets drafted right where the rest of the 20 PPG QBs do. If you're content with bottom half of the top 10 QBs then that's fine. Doesn't mean he sucks.

He wasn't even in the top 10 coming into this week and cam was averaging more points per game. You can't carry the 50 points over to the next week
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

WTF does Romeo have to do with Brady when the debate was concerning Romo and Cam?

sigh
quote:

They were not far off even in 4 pt leagues and the difference in round drafted is huge. I guess you don't get that?

sigh
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36813 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:41 pm to
Prior to this week in STD scoring, Cam was at 18.7 and Romo at 16.8.

ADP:
Cam - 33.4
Romo - 80.7

Prior to this week, as well:
Only QB's to AVG 20+ points STD league:
Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, Vick

Neither Rivers not Vick went high in drafts.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:52 pm to
Whats it all mean?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53731 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Whats it all mean?


It means Romo was, and is, the better value pick
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:29 am to
There are too many variables for a right or wrong answer. Romo was a 5th and 6th round pick in my 2 non auction drafts.

I'm sure the people who rode Cam's 35, 41, and 35 point games during their fantasy playoffs last year were fine with the value that got from him
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:18 am to
quote:

It means Romo was, and is, the better value pick

Ding ding ding
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 10/14/13 at 12:35 pm to
I think this is how it's done

Romo- 11.8

Cam- 36.6


Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 10/14/13 at 12:37 pm to
Solid bump
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