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How much do you care about ESPN's Total QBR stat?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:08 am
They really seem to be pushing the shite out of this stat. But I don't know why I'm supposed to care about it.
I don't even know what it means, and don't really care about finding out what it means.
I don't even know what it means, and don't really care about finding out what it means.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am to ProjectP2294
Frick them
Stick to passer rating
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am to ProjectP2294
But they care. And they're the ones doing the caring.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am to ProjectP2294
then why you care how much i care about it?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:12 am to ProjectP2294
On a scale of 1-10. 1 not caring at all and 10 caring alot
I'm at a who gives a frick
I'm at a who gives a frick
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:12 am to MasterBetty
You don't even know what QBR is, do you?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:12 am to Chad504boy
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Chad504boy
Assume that I'm never soliciting your opinion and respond accordingly.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:13 am to ProjectP2294
None, because it is an objective stat. Any stat that requires "film review" and objective analysis is not a mathematically sound stat, but a biased stat.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:14 am to ProjectP2294
I think it is comical everyone shits on this stat. It obviously gives you a much better picture of a QBs performance than the regular passer rating. They put in a great deal of thought into it and it is very logical, it incorporates such factors as 3rd down conversions and RZ efficiency plus how good of a defense they are playing against.
Please tell me how this is some stupid meaningless stat?
Please tell me how this is some stupid meaningless stat?
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am to ProjectP2294
Just win the game. shite happens.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am to ProjectP2294
It is a hell of a lot more meaningful than the traditional passer rating stat. It takes into account sacks, rushing plays, how important a pass was (down and distance, how close the game is, what quarter it is). A QB gets fewer points if he throws a 5 yards pass that goes for a 50 yard touchdown versus throwing 50 yards in the air for the touchdown. Is it perfect? Certainly not, but it is better than the alternatives.
I always point to the fact that since 2006 (which is how far back they have available on their website), the leader in the QBR metric was first-team All-Pro and won the MVP when it did not mistakenly go to a running back (Peterson in 2012 is who I am referring to here, but Tomlinson did deserve it in 2006 for scoring 30 touchdowns).
I will admit that I might be biased since it rates my favorite QB, Peyton Manning, so well. Going back to 2006, Peyton has 5 of the top 10 QBR ratings in any one season, including the top one overall, and that is despite missing out on the year of the QB in 2011 and having one less season than everyone else. Peyton is once again dominating in 2013, a full 4 points ahead of second place and 10 points ahead of third place.
I always point to the fact that since 2006 (which is how far back they have available on their website), the leader in the QBR metric was first-team All-Pro and won the MVP when it did not mistakenly go to a running back (Peterson in 2012 is who I am referring to here, but Tomlinson did deserve it in 2006 for scoring 30 touchdowns).
I will admit that I might be biased since it rates my favorite QB, Peyton Manning, so well. Going back to 2006, Peyton has 5 of the top 10 QBR ratings in any one season, including the top one overall, and that is despite missing out on the year of the QB in 2011 and having one less season than everyone else. Peyton is once again dominating in 2013, a full 4 points ahead of second place and 10 points ahead of third place.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:19 am to fouldeliverer
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I think it is comical everyone shits on this stat. It obviously gives you a much better picture of a QBs performance than the regular passer rating. They put in a great deal of thought into it and it is very logical, it incorporates such factors as 3rd down conversions and RZ efficiency plus how good of a defense they are playing against.
Please tell me how this is some stupid meaningless stat?
You seem to be really offended that I pointed out that ESPN has not convinced me why I should care about a stat created by their marketing department.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:22 am to ProjectP2294
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Rodgers, whose Packers won at the Georgia Dome, completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns. His Total QBR was 82.1.
Tebow, whose Broncos lost at home to the Chargers, completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown. And he ran the ball six times for 38 yards and a touchdown. And his Total QBR was 83.2
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:23 am to ProjectP2294
The "clutch index" is my favorite part.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:34 am to castorinho
I've been mildly amused in general at ESPN incorporating more stats over the last decade, ever since Moneyball (the book) came out.
I find their magazine actually does a decent job with this, but the network can be just hard to watch a lot of the time.
I find their magazine actually does a decent job with this, but the network can be just hard to watch a lot of the time.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:35 am
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:37 am to Kafka
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Rodgers, whose Packers won at the Georgia Dome, completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns. His Total QBR was 82.1.
Tebow, whose Broncos lost at home to the Chargers, completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown. And he ran the ball six times for 38 yards and a touchdown. And his Total QBR was 83.2
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