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How much do you care about ESPN's Total QBR stat?

Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:08 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:08 am
They really seem to be pushing the shite out of this stat. But I don't know why I'm supposed to care about it.

I don't even know what it means, and don't really care about finding out what it means.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am to
I just ignore it.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am to


Frick them

Stick to passer rating
Posted by MasterBetty
Monroe, LA
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am to
But they care. And they're the ones doing the caring.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:10 am to
then why you care how much i care about it?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:12 am to
On a scale of 1-10. 1 not caring at all and 10 caring alot


I'm at a who gives a frick
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:12 am to
You don't even know what QBR is, do you?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70227 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Chad504boy


Assume that I'm never soliciting your opinion and respond accordingly.
Posted by MasterBetty
Monroe, LA
Member since Apr 2012
894 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:13 am to
quote:

BRgetthenet


Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:13 am to
None, because it is an objective stat. Any stat that requires "film review" and objective analysis is not a mathematically sound stat, but a biased stat.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:14 am to
I think it is comical everyone shits on this stat. It obviously gives you a much better picture of a QBs performance than the regular passer rating. They put in a great deal of thought into it and it is very logical, it incorporates such factors as 3rd down conversions and RZ efficiency plus how good of a defense they are playing against.

Please tell me how this is some stupid meaningless stat?
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am to
Just win the game. shite happens.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am to
It is a hell of a lot more meaningful than the traditional passer rating stat. It takes into account sacks, rushing plays, how important a pass was (down and distance, how close the game is, what quarter it is). A QB gets fewer points if he throws a 5 yards pass that goes for a 50 yard touchdown versus throwing 50 yards in the air for the touchdown. Is it perfect? Certainly not, but it is better than the alternatives.

I always point to the fact that since 2006 (which is how far back they have available on their website), the leader in the QBR metric was first-team All-Pro and won the MVP when it did not mistakenly go to a running back (Peterson in 2012 is who I am referring to here, but Tomlinson did deserve it in 2006 for scoring 30 touchdowns).

I will admit that I might be biased since it rates my favorite QB, Peyton Manning, so well. Going back to 2006, Peyton has 5 of the top 10 QBR ratings in any one season, including the top one overall, and that is despite missing out on the year of the QB in 2011 and having one less season than everyone else. Peyton is once again dominating in 2013, a full 4 points ahead of second place and 10 points ahead of third place.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70227 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:19 am to
quote:

I think it is comical everyone shits on this stat. It obviously gives you a much better picture of a QBs performance than the regular passer rating. They put in a great deal of thought into it and it is very logical, it incorporates such factors as 3rd down conversions and RZ efficiency plus how good of a defense they are playing against.

Please tell me how this is some stupid meaningless stat?


You seem to be really offended that I pointed out that ESPN has not convinced me why I should care about a stat created by their marketing department.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141864 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:22 am to
LINK

quote:

Rodgers, whose Packers won at the Georgia Dome, completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns. His Total QBR was 82.1.

Tebow, whose Broncos lost at home to the Chargers, completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown. And he ran the ball six times for 38 yards and a touchdown. And his Total QBR was 83.2
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:23 am to
The "clutch index" is my favorite part.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:25 am to
Zero
Posted by castorinho
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Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10201 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:34 am to
I've been mildly amused in general at ESPN incorporating more stats over the last decade, ever since Moneyball (the book) came out.

I find their magazine actually does a decent job with this, but the network can be just hard to watch a lot of the time.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:35 am
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Rodgers, whose Packers won at the Georgia Dome, completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns. His Total QBR was 82.1.

Tebow, whose Broncos lost at home to the Chargers, completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown. And he ran the ball six times for 38 yards and a touchdown. And his Total QBR was 83.2
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