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re: Urlacher: Bears had a "designated dive guy" who faked injuries

Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:43 pm to
Count me in the camp that doesn't have a problem with it. You're barely allowed to tackle anyone anymore. Now the defenses have to put up with this HUNH crap?
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:46 pm to
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if the offense can use mickey mouse hurry crap then the defense should be able to employ mickey mouse fake injuries


Employing smart, fit players and leveraging their talents isn't "mickey mouse".
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:50 pm to
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Faking because you're too weak and out of shape to keep up is even more pathetic than flopping to try and earn a foul call.


This. Especially because guys in football will exaggerate to get a call...like pass rushers when held or WRs for PI...
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39576 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Pathetic. They, just like soccer, need to institute a rule where a player who gets "injured" has to sit out of the game for a certain amount of time and it should be a significant amount.


Make it the rest of the drive. It should all but eliminate this type of stuff, and if a player actually is injured to the point where he needs medical attention on the field and the game to stop, he should probably be out for at least the series anyway to be checked on, and then he can go back in on the next one.


Three pages and no one thought that the defense would put in a backup to take the fall, thereby his failure to return to the game wouldn't matter for the defense.

C'mon guys, y'all are slipping.

ETA: There is always eventually enough time for one guy to run out there and get "hurt."
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 2:05 pm
Posted by iliveinabox
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Member since Aug 2011
24115 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:04 pm to
shocking...
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:44 pm to
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if the offense can use mickey mouse hurry crap then the defense should be able to employ mickey mouse fake injuries



Offenses speeding up is mickey mouse? Do you even cardio bro?
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 2:45 pm
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13263 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:52 pm to
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I'mfairly certain faking injuries has been part of football since it's inception.


Back in the 80s and 90s offensive players used to fake injuries after the 2 minute warning to give the offense more time on their final drive of the game. Happened all the time, hell the announcers used to call out their own teams.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112312 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:00 pm to
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Faking injuries influences the ref to call an injury timeout to slow down the game, helping defenses regain an advantage


They arent really gaining an advantage, just evening out the playing field

I just dont see the big deal.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66413 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:01 pm to
every team does this, big deal
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:09 pm to
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Employing smart, fit players and leveraging their talents isn't "mickey mouse".


It's a known fact the D gets more tired than the O. The D has all 11 players running, while the offense only has about 5-6 AT MOST running on every play.

It's an inherent disadvantage and it would be nice if they made a rule either stating the ball can't be snapped until 15 seconds left on the play clock or the defense is allowed to substitute or give a "ready" signal before the ball can be snapped again. Would be more true to the game of football. I guess they could make an exception with 5 minutes to go in each half.

Right now, it's just bitch ball to run HUNH. Basically, all it does is wear the Dlines down which is when the bitch ball teams run the ball because they couldn't possibly matchup man to man.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:57 pm to
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"We have instructed all officials to be on the alert for violations of this rule. Further, if it is determined by video review or other means available to the League office that defensive players are engaging in such practices, such players and their coaches may be subject to disciplinary action," said the memo, sent by Dean Blandino in his first year as the NFL's vice president of officiating.

The memo also advised teams that "violators of this policy will be subject to appropriate disciplinary action for conduct detrimental to the game which could include fines of coaches, players, and clubs, suspensions or forfeiture of draft choices."

Feigning injuries is not restricted to defensive players as teams prepare to face no-huddle, up-tempo offenses. Last season, receiver Emmanuel Sanders was fined $15,000 for feigning injury and his team, the Pittsburgh Steelers, was fined $35,000.


LINK
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 4:02 pm
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 4:28 pm to
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They arent really gaining an advantage, just evening out the playing field

I just dont see the big deal.


I don't think it's a big deal in and of itself, I just think it's interesting people don't have a problem with this but hate soccer for diving or basketball for flopping. Then again, IMO I see them as being similar in nature, and you don't, I'm cool with that
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51659 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 4:30 pm to
Urlacher comes off like a huge count by revealing this. Like he's bitter at the team for cutting him. I can already tell I'm going to hate him more than Canseco
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 5:03 pm to
If there's a way to level the playing field, without breaking the rules, it's fair game to me. Lol to supporters of nh getting pissed about it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422394 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 5:24 pm to
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Right now, it's just bitch ball to run HUNH. Basically, all it does is wear the Dlines down which is when the bitch ball teams run the ball because they couldn't possibly matchup man to man.

i think it's smart football that just changes a paradigm that people are resisting

and it does have negative effects, namely fricking up and tiring the shite out of your own defense
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 5:36 pm to
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If the offense feels they get an advantage by hurrying plays; i have no problem with the defense doing this


This. If teams wanna play a pussy style offense, then defenses can play a pussy style defense.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

if the offense can use mickey mouse hurry crap then the defense should be able to employ mickey mouse fake injuries
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 6:21 pm to
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I agree, I have no problems with defenses doing that

Posted by maringer11
Member since Jan 2012
1189 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 6:28 pm to
Why don't players just have their helmets accidentally fall off their head?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422394 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:38 pm to
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If teams wanna play a pussy style offense,

what's so "pussy" about out-smarting your opponents?

quote:

then defenses can play a pussy style defense.

cheating is cheating
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