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re: Saints trade for Outside linebacker Parys Haralson

Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:29 am to
Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:29 am to
For all of the injuries we've had at LB, we're still looking pretty good going into the season with Galette, Hawthorne, Lofton, and Harlason. Depth will be the real issue now.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:34 am to
LB corp is looking really strong with a lineup of

harlson - lofton - hawthorne - galette

I wouldn't be surprised if we ranked up there in run defense
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:36 am to
After his addition I feel much better now. He and Galette will likely be the every down guys with Wilson coming in as the Joker rushing in key spots and in passing downs.

Having Wilson and Richardson as basically your two deep is as solid as we can get right now. Man, I can't wait for the season to see this come together.

Just think if Butler could come back even at the end of the year (I know unlikely.) if not, well already be very solid at the OLB spot with 3 young, now experience guys with an experienced and accomplished vet to lead the way.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 9:46 am
Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Having Wilson and Richardson as basically your two deep is as solid as we can get right now. Man, I can't wait for the season to see this come together.

Agreed. With the injuries, a group of Tez, Martin, Richardson, and Humber as depth is about as good as you can realistically ask for.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 9:49 am
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:59 am to
If the Dline plays as well as they have, the OLB position won't be an issue. They'll be helped a lot by Jordan/Hicks/Foster getting pressure on their own.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:09 am to
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If the Dline plays as well as they have, the OLB position won't be an issue. They'll be helped a lot by Jordan/Hicks/Foster getting pressure on their own.


1000x.

I mean, we do need some competent guys playing olb, but the d-line will dictate how effective they'll be.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:11 am to
quote:

If the Dline plays as well as they have


who would have thought we'd be saying this after last season?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:14 am to
Preemptive

Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:20 am to
quote:

we do need some competent guys playing olb,


Absolutely. I wasn't trying to diminish the importance of the position, but they will help each other.

Can you imagine Atlanta's RT trying to block Galette with Jordan or Hicks on that side too and the C/G trying to double Bunkley/Jenkins....Whoever isn't getting doubled will have one guy to beat.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:21 am to
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If the Dline plays as well as they have, the OLB position won't be an issue. They'll be helped a lot by Jordan/Hicks/Foster getting pressure on their own.

What I've been screaming.

Everyone says the OLB is the most important, but honestly, without a good DL that gets pressure and takes up blocks, that rush OLB isn't worth much.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Can you imagine Atlanta's RT trying to block Galette with Jordan or Hicks on that side too and the C/G trying to double Bunkley/Jenkins.


Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:27 am to
Jordan and Foster are ranked number one and two, respectively, for overall production among 3-4 DEs so far in the preseason...with walker not far behind.
Now, those stats are skewed for foster and walker (not playing starters).

However, Hicks seems to be having some trouble as his rating is pretty negative.


On the other hand, Jenkins and bunkley are both performing pretty averagely, with Jenkins ahead.



I think Jordan and foster might be making our DL look better than it is right now.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 10:28 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Ian Rapoport ?@RapSheet 1m
Talking with a scout while watching #Falcons-#Titans: Right tackle is a big issue for Falcons. They helped with TE or RB and still struggled


Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:31 am to
Wish I would have caught the Falcons game the other night. Seems O line is a major issue with them. I'm curious to see how this plays out. Has Matty Ice had good protection throughout his career? Or has he had average pressure?
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:32 am to
quote:

harlson - lofton - hawthorne - galette


IMO, I'd like the starters to be Haralson - Lofton - Humber - Wilson with a heavy rotation of Galette in pass rush situations. I think that would be ideal.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:33 am to
I have a feeling Matty is going to be on his arse quite a few times come week 1
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:33 am to
One of the radio hosts this morning said Lamar Holmes "looked like he was on roller skates"

They're probably laughing at our defensive issues/injuries right now so I won't get too excited

Also, it's fun listening to ATL radio. When they found about Smith the responses were

"That defense is bad and just got worse"

"They were looking to Will Smith to anchor that defense in the 34 switch and be the rush off the edge"

"They were really looking for Will Smith to have a big season...."

I'm not sure any of those statements is accurate
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:34 am to
Their offense use to be very vanilla. Lost of curls and outs. No screens. Now they're more vertical passing, and they've incorporated screens/bubble screens, quick slants. There are ways to make up for poor pass blocking, but if they get behind, it might be hard for them to get back in the game.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Has Matty Ice had good protection throughout his career?

Tyson clabo was a great offensive lineman.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 10:36 am to
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Or has he had average pressure?


I'd say average pressure at least. Their oline has been an issue for a few years now. I didn't see the solution as releasing your RT and your Center retiring to replace them with rookies or 2nd year mid round draft picks. But hey...I guess that's kind of what we do
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