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Does anyone use SAP

Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:35 am
Posted by bigblake
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Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:00 pm to
in standard sap....cost and revenue are shown against a cost element with a rule of debit and creditwith respect to that cost element.

That's why revenue is in negative and cost is in positive.
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:06 pm to
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Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:11 pm to
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Alright, I've read that same explanation before. This time explain it to a person that isn't an accountant.


Serious question - if you lack basic accounting knowledge, fine ... but why are you using SAP?
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:15 pm to
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Posted by RickAstley
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:31 pm to
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but why are you using SAP


All ERP software have their pitfalls, yet I have heard from consultants that AX is little less stressful than SAP. There might be a little more money in the SAP side of consulting, though the AX network I have found to be pretty helpful
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 1:39 pm to
Frankly, I can't explain the rhyme and reason. My job revolves around working in SAP. It's ridiculously complex, but it's also ridiculously robust. I just go with the flow. I'm programmed to read credits as negatives integers and debits as positive integers.

Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

All ERP software have their pitfalls


True, I was just wondering why a non-accountant would need to have a question like this answered. Wasn't saying anything about SAP in particular.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 8:20 pm to
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I took my required Accounting courses in my MBA, but that was it. I'm a data miner/financial valuations dude. I'm the excel wizard at work, and our business manager wanted some help reconciling future budgets using SAP data exported to Excel.


Ah.

I know little about SAP but I can tell you that in accounting when you book revenue (be quiet you CPA's out there, I'm keeping it simple here) by increasing cash on the asset side and increasing revenue on the equity side. This means you debit cash and credit income. Most systems by convention treat credit amounts as negatives.
Posted by GreenTrout
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:42 pm to
I use SAP daily, and often export reports from SAP.

Revenues have a credit balance(normally) and in SAP it shows you this credit balance with a - behind the number when you export it. The revenue isn't negative per se, but the fact that it's normal balance is a credit and credit balances are treated the same regardless of account.
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 8:06 am to
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Posted by Sebastian Haff
Dallas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:38 am to
Thats exactly right. I use SAP (Accountant).
When you make a sale you credit (Negative entry) to Sales, thus Net income shows as a credit too. Positive Net income in SAP would actually be a book loss.
Its just standard ERP logic.
I do see where it can be confusing.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
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Posted on 8/31/13 at 4:49 am to
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Thats exactly right. I use SAP (Accountant).


I use Momentum for federal government ERP, we do the same thing.
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