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Car Buying/Trade In Process

Posted on 8/15/13 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3293 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 10:36 pm
So I have a 4 Door Jeep Wrangler. Bought it from a family member who babied it...only has 26,000 miles on it. Had it for 6 months or so...but 14 MPG is getting old fast.

I've been toying around with trading it in for a recent model Honda Accord. Went to the dealership this evening and left sort of ticked off...

NADA says it's worth $21,750...guy offered me $17,000. Then worked up to $18,500. I told him I'd have to get fair value trade and he told me it wasn't going to happen.

Is he being a typical used car jerk, or am I going to have trouble with this trade in?
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 10:37 pm
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

NADA says it's worth $21,750...guy offered me $17,000. Then worked up to $18,500. I told him I'd have to get fair value trade and he told me it wasn't going to happen.


So you want retail value and want the dealership to make no profit? That's more than absurd

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 11:12 pm to
I would sell it private party. My dad does that and sometimes even makes more than FMV
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 11:13 pm to
You need to start with KBB trade in value not NADA. Or, you know, be intrepid and sell it yourself.

ETA: you left out a lot of pertinent details that you included in your duplicate OT thread, like the fact that you owe $20k on it. You should definitely sell it yourself and have the buyer meet you at the bank who holds the note to complete the sale. Lots of dumbass kids with daddy's money will overpay for a Wrangler - even one with the shitty engine.
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3293 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 7:56 am to
quote:

So you want retail value and want the dealership to make no profit? That's more than absurd


That's the trade in value, private party value is $25K.
Posted by LSUTigers00884
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2011
1160 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:09 am to
The dealership is trying to make money man. Lol.

Sell it yourself. You never trade in a vehicle to get a lot of money or current value of car.
Posted by GrantTheFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
336 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:42 am to
The book may say it's worth 25k retail, but that seems pretty high, you have to think of the market. The 2014's hit the market in a couple weeks, making this one 8 years old. A new one can be bought for around 35k. I know it's very low miles and may be showroom condition, but nobody is going to pay that when one 8 years newer can be bought for 10k more, especially with the new engine and interior upgrades. jmho.
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16534 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:08 am to
You can always try a place like CarMax and see what they will buy it for. An appraisal takes about 30 minutes and they will write you a check on the spot if you decide to sell.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3796 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:28 am to
Are you local? I ask only because the Honda dealerships seemed to fight me quite a bit on my trade as well.

Private party is your best option for getting the most value. You can also do the paperwork at the dealership of choice to take advantage of the tax savings. It's called a "fast trade" or "paper trade". You basically trade car to dealer, get tax savings, and buyer buys car from you through the dealer. They pay full taxes, but if they need financing, they likely would anyway. Can also take advantage of dealerships used car financing.

It's best to work trade and new car deal independently. However, if you've blown that opportunity, don't let them get you on both. Work both deals equally as hard. I also had the option to sell my car privately between agreeing to purchase the Accord, and receiving it.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:59 am to
Im here at Moss Honda in Lafayette...was there any damage over 500.00 reported to insurance??

What are you looking to get into?
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 8/17/13 at 12:49 am to
quote:

typical used car jerk


You Gon Get Rapeded
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14867 posts
Posted on 8/17/13 at 12:13 pm to
actually dealers do not use NADA or KBB they use Black Book which is true wholesale and they watch the weekly auction prices- these numbers are somewhat less that KBB, NADA or Edmonds-

NADA is used by banks for loan purposes-
Posted by BobDobalina
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
221 posts
Posted on 8/17/13 at 2:05 pm to
start by taking the 'mileage' bump off on NADA.. no dealer is going to pay you for that
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 8/19/13 at 10:51 am to
Yeah, you can't use NADA or KBB values. Try Edmunds or someone that's a dealer to get you the "Black Book" value.

Carmax has actually become a standard pricing tool for many people and I see most dealerships advertising that they will meet Carmax's price or beat it by a few hundred.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24927 posts
Posted on 8/19/13 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

4 Door Jeep Wrangler


I think these resale well on the private market. I would definitely try to sell it yourself. I've always looked at selling my old car and purchasing my next car as two separate transactions. I've never seen where trading in would be to my benefit.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12761 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 7:15 pm to
im in the market for a benz or audi for my wife, who currently owns a 08 c class. the salesman at both audi and mercedes told us we are better off selling our car to carmax than trading it in to their respective dealerships.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5176 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

start by taking the 'mileage' bump off on NADA.. no dealer is going to pay you for that


Yep, "low mileage" isn't worth what it used to be. In fact, sometimes it hurts resale.
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