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What Happened to "Tactical Espionage"?
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:29 pm
Through Act 2 and MGS4 is an action game with a slight stealth component. Disappoint.
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:39 pm to Devious
Wait until act 3 and 4
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:46 pm to Devious
You're doing it wrong then
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:53 pm to Devious
You can stealth through the whole game if you want; except for bosses, obviously.
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:54 pm to Devious
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Through Act 2 and MGS4 is an action game with a slight stealth component. Disappoint.
I really enjoyed MGS4 but it's a movie first and a game second, imo. That's not a bad thing, though, if you're a fan of the series. There is loads of fan service and some really fun flashback stuff toward the end.
These moments were especially effective to me because I played some of the previous MGS games right before playing through 4. I was hit with huge waves of nostalgia and feelings of returning to an old place I once knew.
MGS4 is a game I can't recommend to everyone, but I've never experienced a story like it and in this way. I'll never forget it and I'm REALLY looking forward to 5.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:56 pm to Bunta
quote:There's my issue. It's a choice. The game doesn't force a tactical stealth approach like past iterations.
You can stealth through the whole game if you want.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:59 pm to Devious
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The game doesn't force a tactical stealth approach like past iterations.
Yeah, they made Snake capable enough in 4 to actually have a fire fight. The previous games always made that an awkward and frequently fruitless approach, probably on purpose.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:01 pm to Devious
Apparently our attention spans aren't up to being "forced" to be stealth, so they either go the action route or just make it either/or. I'll always go stealth if I have to, but the genre is really dwindling away. I'm not sure I have a lot of faith in the new Splinter Cell bringing it back.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:07 pm to sicboy
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I'll always go stealth if I have to, but the genre is really dwindling away.
I don't know. Both Batman AA and AC have a lot of stealth elements and they were a lot of fun (and sold well). There's also Mark of the Ninja, though that's 2D stealth and easier to pull off for obvious reasons.
I've heard Dishonored is awesome but I haven't played it yet myself (picked it up in the Steam sell).
And Stealth Bastard / Stealth Inc just came out for PSN, and it's a lot of fun, but again...2D stealth. It's been on PC for a while.
Having said all of that...
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I'm not sure I have a lot of faith in the new Splinter Cell bringing it back.
I don't have a lot of faith in the new Splinter Cell either, but I don't think the genre needs to be brought back to begin with.
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:11 pm to DieDaily
Mark of the Ninja does the stealth aspect pretty well.
Also, if you get caught in that game you are dead. I love it.
Also, if you get caught in that game you are dead. I love it.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:39 pm to Mear
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Mark of the Ninja does the stealth aspect pretty well.
The amazing thing about it is the level of information conveyed to the player visually. You always know EXACTLY why someone saw, heard, or even smelled you.
I don't know if it could be pulled off, but I'd love to see a 3D stealth game give that much information to the player without the UI becoming a cluttered mess of various colors.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:40 pm to DieDaily
They need a Tenchu remake
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:42 pm to DieDaily
I didn't kill a single person in deus ex so there's that. I thought that was fun.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:36 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
I think splinter cell is going for the option of aggressive or stealth. I wish assassins creed would become more of a stealth game and not just a counter move game.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:03 pm to DieDaily
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I played some of the previous MGS games right before playing through 4. I was hit with huge waves of nostalgia and feelings of returning to an old place I once knew.
same.
frick the bird boss in mgs4 though, that shite was gay
Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:26 pm to Carson123987
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frick the bird boss in mgs4
Yeah, that boss was terrible. But that sniper battle in a blizzard was pretty awesome.
That game is chock full of moments that left me impressed with it's genius one minute, and shaking my head in confusion the next.
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