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The purpose of 7-on-7????
Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:41 pm
I went out to watch U-High in the 7-on-7 tournament at LSU today. Maybe some of you can help me understand the purpose of 7-on-7. I'm not criticizing anyone, but what I saw today to me was just glorified touch football! The QB has 4 secs to throw the ball, but it's not the same pressure as a DT or DE coming to knock his arse off! WRs cut across the middle and leap high in the air to catch pass because they know the LBs can't hit them. Other than timing, conditioning, and bragging rights what other benefits are gained from such competitions? I'm asking because I don't know and I don't understand the purpose of it. What I saw today was in no way close to a real game situation, so I don't see how it helps when the season starts. Help me understand!
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:42 pm to wildman77
Reps and experience for skill players since organized practice is limited in summer months.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:42 pm to wildman77
Gets elite talent on campus.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:50 pm to LSU=Champions
quote:I'll be the first to admit that I don't know everything about football and maybe my view is wrong. I got into football when my son started playing. I was a basketball junkie! But, seems like an athlete would and should be judged on whether or not he is elite on how he does in REAL competition! Game situations! Like I said, if I'm wrong then I apologize, that's just how I think!
Gets elite talent on campus.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:52 pm to LSU=Champions
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Gets elite talent on campus.
Im just glad we got all the nola boys at LSU today, definitely cant hurt
Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:56 pm to wildman77
7 on 7 is pretty annoying for interior lineman, yes, but the extra reps and competition is pretty big for the chemistry of most teams. Since there is a no pads Louisiana summer rule, its the best way to continue competition and team building in the summer. Baseball has summer and fall ball, basketball has AAU and summer league play. This is the best they could come up with imo
Posted on 7/20/13 at 6:58 pm to wildman77
Route running
shiftiness
covering
passing
catching
matching up against elite competition
Footwork
Skill football
shiftiness
covering
passing
catching
matching up against elite competition
Footwork
Skill football
Posted on 7/20/13 at 7:06 pm to RBWilliams8
I know when I played which was a long time ago it was used to just run the plays and get the assignments down and the timing. Ours were live with real blocking and real tackling and no two hand tag!
Posted on 7/20/13 at 7:25 pm to wildman77
Is somebody making money off of it? I have no idea, but that's usually the answer.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 7:26 pm to wildman77
I always considered it practice, 1's against 1's. And even though the Qb isn't being pressured...accuracy, arm strength, and field vision is still emphasized.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 7:34 pm to wildman77
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But, seems like an athlete would and should be judged on whether or not he is elite on how he does in REAL competition!
The problem with football in relation to other sports is you simply can't play the volume of games you do in other sports. High school baseball and basketball players play 30-35 game regular seasons (maybe more with some high-end 5A baseball programs who have the pitching to play in tournaments every weekend before district) and they probably double that between summer and fall select ball. So 100 games a year.
In football, if you play more than the 10-15 games they'll play in the high school season, it borders on too much.
And I'll say this: high school teams pass the ball a HELL of a lot better than they did when I played in the 80s. Direct result of 7-on-7.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 7:35 pm to wildman77
I would say a big benefit is getting these elite guys together and competing against each other allows them some adjusting time with the speed of the college game.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 8:02 pm to wildman77
The thing about regular 11 on 11 tackle football is the teams with better line play tend to dominate, so it's harder to evaluate the contributions of the skill players sometimes. There is no tackling or blocking in 7 on 7. This allows you to evaluate skill players on all the things they do taking line play out of the equation. It showcases passing game skills (other than blocking) on both sides of the ball, players ability to move in space, cover ground, agility, hands, and all that kind of stuff.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 8:19 pm to scottynola
for defenders it shows who's good in coverage and who's not. It also can help you improve on those. The same goes for linebackers who are just tackling machines. Guys with better insticts and reaction times usually stand out here.
Running backs, it shows who has good hands or improving on those that don't. WRs can focus and improve on route running and show off their elusiveness. I'd say it's the more cosmetic part of football where speed, and mental ability is more on display than hitting power and break tackling.
It's a good way to train without risking injury and also focus on the finer points of the sport.
Running backs, it shows who has good hands or improving on those that don't. WRs can focus and improve on route running and show off their elusiveness. I'd say it's the more cosmetic part of football where speed, and mental ability is more on display than hitting power and break tackling.
It's a good way to train without risking injury and also focus on the finer points of the sport.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 9:33 pm to wildman77
7 on 7 js a great way to practice routes, route combinations, QB/WR timing and reads, play calling etc and on the flip side its great for defenses to practice coverage calls/switchs and reps them in each type of defense against specific offenses
You could do the same kind of "whats the point" with some Oline drills as well but they all serve a purpose
You could do the same kind of "whats the point" with some Oline drills as well but they all serve a purpose
Posted on 7/20/13 at 10:43 pm to wildman77
i loved 7 on 7s. most of these kids eat, sleep and dream football so it keeps them satisfied plus the other stuff mentioned.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 10:44 pm to joechristoppher77
Yes, I think 7-on-7 offers a great summer practice like venue for skill players and helps QBs and WRs work on their timing, but it does penalize the interior lineman who have to settle for less interesting weight training, running, etc., all the time.
One positive about it is that since no tackling is allowed, the chances of injury are very limited.
One positive about it is that since no tackling is allowed, the chances of injury are very limited.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 11:02 pm to GhostofJackson
Also allows the kids to compete and secondaries have to communicate. All the stuff about timing and reps added. As long as teams work on there 2 min plays and real packages. Not some bs 7 on 7 offense and D.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 11:03 pm to wildman77
I agree with the OP mostly. I still think football is a game that rewards those that can win their physical match ups. 7 on 7 doesn't necessarily emphasize this, I think a moderate amount of this is fine, but given the huge number of reps some of these kids take in 7s, it is almost like a different sport and may not help as much as some think. Getting hit in the mouth or pressured may come as such a shock they have a harder time with the real deal.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 11:31 pm to tigerfoot
quote:I'm not downing 7-on-7's, I just didn't get it! I'm NOT a football guru! I'll admit my knowledge is limited because I never played football other than pickup ball on the playground or someone's backyard. I kept my talents on the hardwood. Tigerfoot you made my point. I was thinking how will someone of these kids respond when the pads go on next month! I understand the timing and reps and such. I still don't feel the emphasis placed on it today is all that helpful in a live game situation. Just my opinion!
I agree with the OP mostly. I still think football is a game that rewards those that can win their physical match ups. 7 on 7 doesn't necessarily emphasize this, I think a moderate amount of this is fine, but given the huge number of reps some of these kids take in 7s, it is almost like a different sport and may not help as much as some think. Getting hit in the mouth or pressured may come as such a shock they have a harder time with the real deal.
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