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Leader of Top Mexican Drug Cartel Arrested


Mexico captures leader of brutal Zetas drug cartel

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Marines arrested Miguel Angel Trevino, aka Z-40, after intercepting his pick-up truck with a helicopter a few miles (km) from his home town of Nuevo Laredo on the U.S. border, government spokesman Eduardo Sanchez said in Mexico City.


While this can be considered a victory for the desperate government in Mexico, I am optimistic what this means for the drug war. IMO, this will increase murders.

The Zetas have certainly risen in recent years as one of the most ruthless, as they have been responsible for hundreds of decapitations in recent months, but if there is one thing we should know, is that drug cartels do not function like terrorist organizations, etc. when their leaders are killed. Someone even more ambitious will assume the role of the previous leader, and they are usually even more ruthless.


Would legalization in US curb violence in Mexico? Or is tighter border security the solution?

Can Mexico defeat the Zetas, such as the Juarez Cartel in the late 90's - early 2000's, or does it depend entirely on the US?







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Teddy Ruxpin
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Would legalization in US curb violence in Mexico?


Of course it would, well, unless the cartels just find another black market product to push for high dollar value gain, but something tells me there isn't a product like drugs on the black market that has millions of users willing to pay to get it like it does.

And I say "of course" because for 1. A lot of production and distribution would move into the U.S. out of Mexico, so even if the cartels moved into legal operation, it would be sorely diminished.

2. Obviously, prices would fall dramatically, making it more difficult to turn a buck.



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Of course it would, well, unless the cartels just find another black market product to push for high dollar value gain,


Such as? There aren't a lot of products that share the same characteristics as drugs.






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Such as? There aren't a lot of products that share the same characteristics as drugs.


C'mon man, read the whole post!

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Of course it would, well, unless the cartels just find another black market product to push for high dollar value gain, but something tells me there isn't a product like drugs on the black market that has millions of users willing to pay to get it like it does.



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Not sure why everyone thinks that legalizing weed would stop the cartels. Did everyone forget that they are also busy transporting meth/heroin/mota and kidnapping/human trafficking.

To me, that is ludicrous to think that.






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Not sure why everyone thinks that legalizing weed would stop the cartels. Did everyone forget that they are also busy transporting meth/heroin/mota and kidnapping/human trafficking.


Uhh, we're talking about legalizing this as well, not just weed.






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Patrick O Rly
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That wasn't there before you son of a bitch.





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Teddy Ruxpin
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That wasn't there before you son of a bitch.


I'm pretty sure it was. But maybe you bent space-time when you posted.



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Not sure why everyone thinks that legalizing weed would stop the cartels. Did everyone forget that they are also busy transporting meth/heroin/mota and kidnapping/human trafficking.
Some of us want to legalize everything, but even just weed would take a good chunk of money away from them.






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Some of us want to legalize everything, but even just weed would take a good chunk of money away from them.


I'd love to see a cartel balance sheet. I'm sure weed is the volume seller, but I'd be curious to know if the harder drugs, while lower volume, compete with marijuana on overall profit due to their higher costs to the consumer.






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Not sure why everyone thinks that legalizing weed would stop the cartels. Did everyone forget that they are also busy transporting meth/heroin/mota and kidnapping/human trafficking.

This was the point I wanted to raise. When California legalized marijuana, the cartels took a bit of a hit, seeing as how California consumes the most weed in the US. When Washington and Colorado legalized it, the cartel's losses were barely noticeable, given the relatively low population in those states.

Now, it is possible that marijuana will become more acceptable in some states, but I imagine this would create a larger strain and lust for control of the other drugs that are far from being legalized widespread - such as cocaine and heroin. This lust for control would only cause more murders and fuel the drug war in a way, IMO.






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Not sure why everyone thinks that legalizing weed would stop the cartels. Did everyone forget that they are also busy transporting meth/heroin/mota and kidnapping/human trafficking.


It would likely cause them to increase their human trafficking. I don't doubt that legalization of weed would curb the cartel, but nothing is stopping them.






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I'm sure weed is the volume seller, but I'd be curious to know if the harder drugs, while lower volume, compete with marijuana on overall profit due to their higher costs to the consumer.
I'm sure this is the case. I wonder if the price for cocaine/heroin would go down if weed were legalized and the cartels devoted all of their resources towards smuggling harder drugs? Cheep coke would be pretty awesome.






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I'd love to see a cartel balance sheet. I'm sure weed is the volume seller, but I'd be curious to know if the harder drugs, while lower volume, compete with marijuana on overall profit due to their higher costs to the consumer.

This chart gives a pretty good idea about the market in the US for Mexican cartels and their profits







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Everyone would be kidnapped, and everyone would pay to have someone kidnapped, and people would be selling their children to pay for ransoms.





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Everyone would be kidnapped, and everyone would pay to have someone kidnapped, and people would be selling their children to pay for ransoms.
I've wondered if Americans would tolerate the sort of cartel violence in Mexico. Would we put up more of a fight? We've got the guns.






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I've wondered if Americans would tolerate the sort of cartel violence in Mexico. Would we put up more of a fight? We've got the guns.


Well, we also have corruption on orders of magnitude less than Mexico (believe it or not) and actual competent enforcement (believe it or not) in relative comparison.


Its got to be a real shite show down there if our cops are considered "good" at what they do.

America, despite media belief, just isn't that violent of a place in a lot of ways. For example, even if a ref stabbed a player, I doubt the fans would behead them as they did in Brazil.



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This chart gives a pretty good idea about the market in the US for Mexican cartels and their profits



Cutting out 17% of their revenue would be a pretty serious blow. Legalizing everything would really hurt them on meth too since it can also be produced domestically. I don't think much can be done about cocaine and heroin though.






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Cutting out 17% of their revenue would be a pretty serious blow. Legalizing everything would really hurt them on meth too since it can also be produced domestically. I don't think much can be done about cocaine and heroin though.


Just wanted to note that legalization would knock out 85% of that chart.

So what would these cartels be able to accomplish with that 15%? How much money is that?

Further, you now would have merging of cartels or a bunch of small cartels. How much less damage would they cause with 85% less of their funds. I imagine they could stay just as violent yet not be able to have as many victims.



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Its got to be a real shite show down there if our cops are considered "good" at what they do.
Yeah, no kidding. It seems to be a pretty big factor to.
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America, despite media belief, just isn't that violent of a place in a lot of ways.
I hate to say it, but I'm rooting for black gangs to maintain control of distribution, but I don't know if they can hold up against the Mexicans.






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