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CPM's Lack of Strategic Coaching

Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:21 am
Posted by TigerHax
Red Stick
Member since Nov 2008
598 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:21 am
Why is it that other team's know how to beat us, the announcer's acknowledge how the other team has a "plan" to beat us, but our coach does not recognize this and adjust for this. When you are up against some of the best team's in the nation, there was no plan. I did not hear the announcer's mention how LSU had a plan to beat UCLA or NC. We did not adjust our play to beat these teams.

Errors were made in the UCLA game but the bottom of the 9th, 0 outs, runner on first, down by one. YOU BUNT THE RUNNER OVER TO 2ND!!! You play to tie and possibly win when the game is on the line. BUT NO, Raph has the green light and swings at ball 3 and ends up in a double play.

Yesterday, again. Not advancing the runners, not playing to win. We know we can't blast it out of the park, so we still try. I hate to be negative, but come on. Lay off the high fast ball...bunt the ball. Pinch hit Raph who is in an enormous slump.
Posted by Slayer103
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
722 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:25 am to
You are absolutely right, CPM won 57 games, won the SEC tourney, got to Omaha, and beat Vandy, Miss State, Oklahoma etc. completely by accident and by having no plan.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9149 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:26 am to
Doesn't really matter about strategy when you got players who can't come through in the clutch. 13 players left on base. That's more than enough opportunities to win the game.

Guess it's easier to hit when nobody is on base. The clutch gene is missing for some of these guys.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:39 am to
The thread title insinuates that CPM is not a strategic thinking head coach. Obviously you have never listened to CPM after a game.

One thing I enjoy about following Vandy Baseball here in Nashville is you never hear fans criticize head coach Tim Corbin. Everyone understands Tim Corbin is a excellent baseball coach. The players are well coached. But sometimes you just hit a wall and things don't go right.

CPM is an excellent head Baseball Coach. Any fan who criticizes LSU Baseball for the season they just had is just plain dumb.

Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
924 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:39 am to
Why do all the teams i have watched in the CWS bunt and get runners over 100% of the time. When someone questions why we don't do it or questions what our coach's plan is, some of us question the loyalty of the person asking the question and jumps on them like sharks in a feeding frenzy. The dude that hit the homeroom on us earlier in the game, bunted later in the game to get that valuable insurance run. We have guys who went 0 for Omaha and they are just wailing away at the plate swinging at everything with a runner on first. Some people simply ask why this occurs.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23145 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:42 am to
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Any fan who criticizes LSU Baseball for the season they just had is just plain dumb.


Great comments altogether, but welcome to the rant
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9149 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:46 am to
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Some people simply ask why this occurs.


Simple answer. That's the way we played all year. The difference is players didn't come through when needed like they did in the regular season. How many times did we see big hits from Bregman during the regular season? How many did you see from him in Omaha?

I guess it's easier for some to point the finger at the coach than the player. Coaches can only do so much.
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:47 am to
in the UCLA gameplan it's not a tough decision to bunt players when your top player is hitting .279. they know they don't get many hits, so when they get someone on base the best chance of scoring is getting him in position to score in the event they get that one hit. i would be bored as hell having to sit through a season of that. on second thought i probably wouldn't even go to watch.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:48 am to
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I hate to be negative


Then don't be.

We had a crappy ending to a great yr, but every team at the CWS will save one cause all but one will end the yr with a L.

I would have bunt in the 9th as well, but that decision didn't lose the game. Errors in the field and not the dugout cost us that game.

We got 10 hits to go with like 4-5 walks yesterday, but managed 2 runs.

shite happens in sports and this time it happened to LSU.

quote:

Lay off the high fast ball


Seems simple, huh. Watch the pros and see how many fail that simple task.

Each to our own, but I'm never gonna piss on players/coaches who get me to the CWS.

Posted by MrAndroid
South of Enterprise
Member since Feb 2011
1489 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:51 am to
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TigerHax


Shut the frick Up.

quote:

Why is it that other team's know how to beat us, the announcer's acknowledge how the other team has a "plan" to beat us, but our coach does not recognize this and adjust for this. When you are up against some of the best team's in the nation, there was no plan. I did not hear the announcer's mention how LSU had a plan to beat UCLA or NC. We did not adjust our play to beat these teams.


Why don't you go fricking coach the baseball team to 57 wins.

Once again, Shut the frick Up.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56178 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:55 am to
quote:

the announcer's acknowledge how the other team has a "plan" to beat us, but our coach does not recognize this and adjust for this


Obvious answer is obvious. TV in dugout is needed, so the super secret plan revealed to us.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29276 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:56 am to
Someone on here mentioned that Maineri said to the media that he couldn't coach the guys to lay off the high pitches Plutko was throwing.

Even if that is the case don't tell us that please.

I will admit the poster of this could have been full of shite but the way we were swinging as BS pitches letter high and above on Sunday appears to lend some merit to it.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:56 am to
The thing about Raph is he never really crushed the ball or hit it hard the way Katz does. He had a lot of baseball fortune especially last year. Everything fell his way. His luck just ran out.
Posted by cadett
Houma
Member since Sep 2007
104 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:59 am to
Because CPM doesn't want to be locked down to small ball. I'm in sort of agreement. We actually bunted more leading up to the CWS. I think CPM is an excellent coach, but I do think he was a littles arrogant going into the tournament. Some of the comments he was making were almost on the side of, "we got this".
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:02 am to
They can't play the game one way for 60 some odd games and then change the way they play for the next game. Swinging for the fences got them one run in the UCLA game, and that was enough to win if it weren't for the errors.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:09 am to
3 of our top hitters went 0-24. Let that sink in a bit.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5286 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:12 am to
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BUT NO, Raph has the green light and swings at ball 3 and ends up in a double play.


This is simply not true. Watch the replay before making a disparaging comment about a kid. The pitch was a strike and while you would expect RR to handle it properly (hit and run on, hit behind the runner) he wasn't able to - round bat plus round ball moving towards you at 80+ MPH occasionally = crazy / weird shite.

As far as supposedly CPM not having a "plan" for either game and you being convinced of that by the fact that the TV announcers never mentioning it. WOW really just WOW??
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79592 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Everyone understands Tim Corbin is a excellent baseball coach


Who's never even been to Omaha because his top 5 ranked teams always choke in the clutch before getting there.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13541 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:20 am to
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Errors were made in the UCLA game but the bottom of the 9th, 0 outs, runner on first, down by one. YOU BUNT THE RUNNER OVER TO 2ND!!! You play to tie and possibly win when the game is on the line. BUT NO, Raph has the green light and swings at ball 3 and ends up in a double play.


All you have to do is read the press conference transcript from CPM after the UCLA and you'll get all the damn strategy you want. He was def thinking strategy in that spot. Maybe he was thinking he had a high contact hitter that is more than likely going to get a fastball to drive and who has also never in his career sac bunted.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Yesterday, again. Not advancing the runners

The people saying this clearly know absolutely nothing about baseball.
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