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TigerinATL
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Greivis Vasquez playing off ball


McNamara with some interesting analysis of GV from last season.

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- Greivis Vasquez needs to play off the ball more next season if he returns. He was fantastic as a spot up shooter and coming off of screens on the weakside. Once he got momentum, he was able to accelerate to the hole. He is too slow to get by his guy on a regular basis at the top of the key, whether it is in isolation or in the pick and roll, but when he came of of screens and got the ball while he was already in motion, he was hard to keep up with. If a true point guard is not added this summer, I fully expect Eric Gordon to be the primary ball handler next year, not Greivis Vasquez.

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supe12sta12z
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I'm sorry but Gordon isn't a primary ball handler unless it's in the last 2-3 minutes of the half/game. His ball security isn't good enough to be a primary ball handler. He gets his pocket picked way too often.

Vasquez will easily make a good off guard as he has shown that he can be effective last season. But he will more than likely continue to play both roles regardless of whether we draft/sign another PG.







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JohnZeroQ
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I fully expect Eric Gordon to be the primary ball handler next year, not Greivis Vasquez.
Jesus Christ come save my life now.







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eyeran
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Its why I don't want to get rid of him. He has the potential to have great value as our 6th or 7th man who could come off the bench as our backup PG or play WITH the starting PG, off the ball.

Its also easy to crap on Vasquez and pick him apart in retrospect, but he kept our offense going for much of the season when we had absolutely nobody else capable of doing it. Gordon wasn't there, Rivers was lost, and Brian Roberts still had no clue.






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TigerinATL
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Its also easy to crap on Vasquez and pick him apart in retrospect, but he kept our offense going for much of the season when we had absolutely nobody else capable of doing it.


I view Vasquez's year last year much like Jack's the year before. A lot of people absolutely hated both for what they weren't, but what they were was pretty damned good if you could put them in a more limited role to hide their weaknesses.



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gatorhater211
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He has the potential to have great value as our 6th or 7th man who could come off the bench as our backup PG or play WITH the starting PG, off the ball.


I just don't know how Greivis would react being put back on the bench. Seems like the type who would bitch about






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Jester
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I just don't know how Greivis would react being put back on the bench. Seems like the type who would bitch about


Depends. If you use him as a strong 6th man, he could still play a lot of minutes. Some 6th men are more important than multiple starters on their team. It's about getting the best out of your units, maximizing your effectiveness, and filling the z-chart.






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gatorhater211
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Good point. As long as we get him to buy into it, I definitely wouldn't mind seeing someone else bring the ball up the floor





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GOP_Tiger
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I agree. I was saying all last year that I think GV is a better SG than PG.

If we get a strong starting point (or if Rivers turns into one), then GV can get starter minutes backing up both guard positions.






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corndeaux
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That's interesting.

Am curious to know the synergy numbers on Vasquez in those two situatioms- spot up and curler






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THRILLHO
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Am curious to know the synergy numbers on Vasquez in those two situatioms- spot up and curler



Dunno, but his 3 point FG% dropped in each month except one, which is a bit worrying.






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TigerinATL
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It sounds like he was playing on bad ankles the back half of the season.





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DeionDeion
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His ball security isn't good enough to be a primary ball handler. He gets his pocket picked way too often.




Ding! Ding! Ding! Not a chance Gordon is the primary ball handler


Mason Jr, B Roberts, GV, even Rivers are better ball handlers


Ok the Rivers inclusion is a tad extreme you get my point though






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THRILLHO
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Would hope that would be the reason. Right at 37% on about 3.3 attempts over his first 45 games. Don't feel like doing the math, but dog shite in his final 33 to drop his average to 34%. If he could shoot ~38% from 3 next season, I'd feel a lot better about him starting.


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tgr4ever
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Rivers has like no handles man. Why did you even include him?





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