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College Baseball Question – Pitches in the Dirt
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:12 am
By strict definition this is MSB-worthy, but I’m guessing the most knowledgeable college baseball fans frequent the Rant this time of year.
Full disclosure: I only watch college baseball when the Tigers are in the postseason tournament(s), and for that I’m sure I have earned some ridicule – but I do have a question.
I noticed in both LSU-OU games and also in the NC-USC, NC State-Rice and Louisville-Vandy games that pitches in the dirt were routinely thrown back to the pitcher – no swapping it out for a fresh ball by the home plate umpire. Why is this different from MLB? Saves money? Are college pitchers less likely to gain an advantage from a scuffed ball? Something else?
Just curious.
Full disclosure: I only watch college baseball when the Tigers are in the postseason tournament(s), and for that I’m sure I have earned some ridicule – but I do have a question.
I noticed in both LSU-OU games and also in the NC-USC, NC State-Rice and Louisville-Vandy games that pitches in the dirt were routinely thrown back to the pitcher – no swapping it out for a fresh ball by the home plate umpire. Why is this different from MLB? Saves money? Are college pitchers less likely to gain an advantage from a scuffed ball? Something else?
Just curious.
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:13 am to GarmischTiger
Pro players are divas
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:14 am to GarmischTiger
Money.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:15 am to GarmischTiger
ross usually hands it to the ump when it hits the dirt.
I still
at that Louisville pitcher rubbing the ball on the mound
I still
at that Louisville pitcher rubbing the ball on the moundPosted on 6/10/13 at 11:15 am to GarmischTiger
Money. Very rarely will a pro use a ball that has just been put in play or bounced in the dirt.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:15 am to GarmischTiger
I'm pretty sure it's just the pitcher's preference. If its wet and he understandably wants a new ball, the ump will throw him a new one.
If he doesn't care, game on.
If he doesn't care, game on.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:16 am to aaronb023
quote:
I still
I had never seen that. The ump looked pissed.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:17 am to krehn11
It is a combination of a few things, but the biggest aspect or reason is simply MONEY. Obviously MLB has more money and can spend it on baseball's. If you look closely during MLB, if the ball is scuffed the umpire will throw it to a ball boy to take it out of the game but if it is not scuffed he puts it in his pouch and hands it out again. Same thing in college if the ball is scuffed then they will take it out of the game, but most of the time the ball isn't scuffed. That is technically what is supposed to happen, but it really depends on the situation and what the umpires are like behind the plate. But the fact that the MLB pitchers are diva's definitely plays heavily into it.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:20 am to liquid rabbit
quote:
I had never seen that. The ump looked pissed.
me neither. I can't imagine most umps would let you do that. maybe they let them do that in the big east
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:22 am to GarmischTiger
The average life span for a major league ball is six pitches.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:23 am to aaronb023
in MLB when the umpire takes a scuffed ball out of the game, do they "re-rub" those balls with mud or whatever they use later on for use in another game?
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:24 am to robot55
Pretty sure they just become BP balls.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:02 pm to PurpleAndGold86
also, a little bit of dirt doesnt effect a college ball nearly as much due to the raised seams
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:06 pm to GarmischTiger
quote:
I noticed in both LSU-OU games and also in the NC-USC, NC State-Rice and Louisville-Vandy games that pitches in the dirt were routinely thrown back to the pitcher – no swapping it out for a fresh ball by the home plate umpire. Why is this different from MLB?
You are such an astute viewer..
Or you listened to one color guy talk about how they don't take dirt balls out of the game in college.
Dirt dampens the ball and the MLB loves offense and the NCAA hates offense.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:10 pm to aaronb023
quote:
I still
Oh crap I had forgotten about that until you mentioned it. Did he think he was actually going to get away with that or was he doing it deliberately to get the ball taken out of play?
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:12 pm to The Boat
quote:Had I done this I wouldn't be posting the question. I muted the non-LSU games because the commentary was sub-par and the commercials sucked. If this was mentioned during our game I missed it.
Or you listened to one color guy talk about how they don't take dirt balls out of the game in college.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:35 pm to GarmischTiger
You came here seeking xpert advice and not one tard in this thread has any idea why a scuffed ball is thrown out. MLB pitchers would love to throw scuffed balls,it increases their movement on all pitches. The umps are calling for those balls and throwing them out. Diva's Money...........idiots galore. 
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:37 pm to redfish99
Did you miss my post you jack wagon?
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:53 pm to The Boat
I did, but I'm not sure what this means.
"Dirt dampens the ball and the MLB loves offense and the NCAA hates offense."
Every ball that goes into the game is rubbed prior to the game with mud.
"Dirt dampens the ball and the MLB loves offense and the NCAA hates offense."
Every ball that goes into the game is rubbed prior to the game with mud.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:58 pm to redfish99
Redfish99
Not every ball that gets tossed out of play in the pros is scuffed. A lot of times even after a pop fly the ball is thrown in the dugout and taken out of the game. If a batter wants he can ask the ump to make the pitcher throw the ball out just because they want to.
Fricking retard.
Not every ball that gets tossed out of play in the pros is scuffed. A lot of times even after a pop fly the ball is thrown in the dugout and taken out of the game. If a batter wants he can ask the ump to make the pitcher throw the ball out just because they want to.
Fricking retard.
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