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Who are the sleeping giants in college basketball?
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:12 am
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:12 am
same premise as the football thread. Examples are UF before Donovan, Tenn before Pearl, and Michigan before Beilein. Just from a sheer numerical standpoint, it's also obviously far less difficult to build a powerhouse basketball program in a shorter time-frame.
UGA/Ga Tech (talent in the metro ATL area is nasty. UGA was good under Harrick, GT under Hewitt as well.)
LSU (if they can keep home the New Orleans/Baton Rouge talent)
Southern Cal (Tim Floyd had a nice program going very recently)
Arizona State (great area, great resources, should be a lot better.)
UGA/Ga Tech (talent in the metro ATL area is nasty. UGA was good under Harrick, GT under Hewitt as well.)
LSU (if they can keep home the New Orleans/Baton Rouge talent)
Southern Cal (Tim Floyd had a nice program going very recently)
Arizona State (great area, great resources, should be a lot better.)
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:16 am to Papa Purple and Gold
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Tenn before Pearl
does not compute
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:18 am to Papa Purple and Gold
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UGA/Ga Tech (talent in the metro ATL area is nasty. UGA was good under Harrick, GT under Hewitt as well.)
Just pisses me off thinking about all the talent Hewitt had and fricked around. Just in his last few years with Shumpert and Favors
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:21 am to Papa Purple and Gold
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(if they can keep home the New Orleans/Baton Rouge talent)
This was not going to help us within a 3 yr period (2009-2011).
LSU is going to have to guarantee itself a chance for talent somewhere out of state when in-state talent is weak, or having problems qualifying.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:21 am to Papa Purple and Gold
I've always thought LSU was just as much a sleeping giant in Basketball as it used to be in Football. We have the same advantages with the talent and no other big schools close. We have the coach that can get the talent. Now the school has to go all in for basketball like it did football.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:27 am to Papa Purple and Gold
as cal showed at memphis, any super coach can go to any major school and do big things
i know memphis has some history, but nothing recent enough to justify that big turnaround, imho. memphis being in a lesser conference also should have hurt it, so that makes up somewhat for the history, imho
i know memphis has some history, but nothing recent enough to justify that big turnaround, imho. memphis being in a lesser conference also should have hurt it, so that makes up somewhat for the history, imho
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
Memphis isn't even the best example of Coach Cal doing that. He did that shite at UMASS. lol
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:31 am to Palm Beach Tiger
and when I came on here and said Memphis was only really good because Cal was there and they would go back to mediocre/above average when he left, I damn near got laughed off the board. For some reason there is a huge Memphis contingency here apparently.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:36 am to Papa Purple and Gold
Arizona State, just like football.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Memphis is a complete basketball city.....
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:45 am to Landsharks
Any school in New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Illinois, Ohio or Indiana
Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:47 am to VerlanderBEAST
St. John's. Why the hell can't a team in NYC find five guys who can play hoops at an elite level is beyond me. Same with DePaul and Chicago.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:08 am to Papa Purple and Gold
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UGA/Ga Tech (talent in the metro ATL area is nasty. UGA was good under Harrick, GT under Hewitt as well.)
ATL talent will always go to UNC/other big ACC schools/Top Big East schools
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 9:12 am
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:09 am to Papa Purple and Gold
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LSU (if they can keep home the New Orleans/Baton Rouge talent)
there isn't that much
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:11 am to NIH
Louisiana has a ton of talent. Just bad coaching and development for the most part due to the football culture. But, College ball is littered with guys that are from La.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:12 am to Papa Purple and Gold
Illinois
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:12 am to NIH
I don't think there is really such a thing in basketball. Pretty much any high major, and a lot of mid majors could potentially be very good basketball schools if they got the right coach.
Basketball recruiting doesn't follow the same geography that football recruiting does. Kids will go anywhere.
Basketball recruiting doesn't follow the same geography that football recruiting does. Kids will go anywhere.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:20 am to ProjectP2294
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Basketball recruiting doesn't follow the same geography that football recruiting does.
very true... but football recruiting is moving that way... it becomes more nation-wide every year.
Any major program is a large city has the potential to become a strong basketball school. Tennessee is a good example of a program that has a mediocre history, but the future is very bright considering Thompson-Bowling is a nice facility, solid fan support, and talent in the area.
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:24 am to ProjectP2294
memphis has a lot of local basketball talent.
I agree with LSU since the tigers should be able to pull from about 3-4 states if they ever got things going again. But honestly LA doesnt put out near the basketball talent that it does for football. What LSu has needed is a promoter like Dale Brown more than an x's and o's guy. And i think we might have it now. I wouldnt have hated hiring Bruce Pearl for this reason.
Agree with Illinois too-chicago basketball talent is unreal.
I agree with LSU since the tigers should be able to pull from about 3-4 states if they ever got things going again. But honestly LA doesnt put out near the basketball talent that it does for football. What LSu has needed is a promoter like Dale Brown more than an x's and o's guy. And i think we might have it now. I wouldnt have hated hiring Bruce Pearl for this reason.
Agree with Illinois too-chicago basketball talent is unreal.
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/20/13 at 9:26 am to Papa Purple and Gold
LSU and Georgia Tech are the only schools on this list that really qualify as "sleeping giants". The other schools have very average at best basketball histories. I don't know why Georgia and USC continually get brought up as these incredibly good basketball jobs anyway. Both schools care less about basketball than nearly every team in their respective conferences and they've practically never done anything in the sport. Georgia went to a Final 4 and had Dominique Wilkins but other than that they literally have one of the worst basketball histories in the SEC.
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