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OB welders - I want a welding machine
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:30 pm
I've never welded, but I want to do some small projects around the farm. There appears to be a bunch of different kinds of machines (arc, tig, mig, stick, etc). which kind of machine should I get for light to medium duty stuff? I need it to be easy to pick up and not too dangerous, because I want to teach my kids how to do it with minimal risk of death.
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:45 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Lincoln 180c dual. Can plug into any socket and it's easy to weld with. It's also on a rebate program right now until the end of june
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:47 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
I suggest you don't go too light or you'll regret it.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:47 pm to Teague
Small is fine for stuff around the house
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:49 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Small is fine for stuff around the house
Depends on what kind of stuff you have around your house.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:52 pm to Teague
Lincoln 110v MIG from Home Depot will be perfectly fine for 99.9% of 'around the house' type work. Unless you'll be welding material thicker than 3/8" or so, that's all you need.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:03 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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but I want to do some small projects around the farm
I guess it depends what you got on the farm, or rather what you're kids are able to break on the farm.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:13 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
do you have access to 220v?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:16 pm to onelochevy
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Home Depot
Airgas has a rebate going on the 180 (works on a 110 or 220)
999 and free stuff or 999 and 100 dollar rebate.
The straight 140 is a good machine too but it's only capable of plugging into a 110 outlet
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:27 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
I've got the 140. It wouldn't generate enough heat/penetration when I was building my bumper out of drill pipe. That's the heaviest stuff I've tried to weld and it just wouldn't cut it. Everthing else though...piece of cake.
If I had a picture of it I would post the photo of the trebuchet that my 12 year old is building. It's a great unit for kids to learn to weld as well.
Go ahead and figure on buying a Victor gas axe as well. +/- $500 for a decent setup there.
If I had a picture of it I would post the photo of the trebuchet that my 12 year old is building. It's a great unit for kids to learn to weld as well.
Go ahead and figure on buying a Victor gas axe as well. +/- $500 for a decent setup there.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:28 pm to NYCAuburn
Yes, I have access to 240v.
My barn is a huge metal structure with beams at least 3/8" thick. the fencing inside the barn is 3" heavy metal pipe. I def don't want anything too light, because there's always a chance a project will come up that is bigger than I'm thinking about right now.
So, first off, what's the type I should be looking at? stick, mig, etc?
My barn is a huge metal structure with beams at least 3/8" thick. the fencing inside the barn is 3" heavy metal pipe. I def don't want anything too light, because there's always a chance a project will come up that is bigger than I'm thinking about right now.
So, first off, what's the type I should be looking at? stick, mig, etc?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:29 pm to onelochevy
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Unless you'll be welding material thicker than 3/8" or so, that's all you need.
That machine is questionable at best on 3/8 metal. Bigger is better IMO.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:30 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Stick is harder for most to pick up IMO.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:31 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
I have a miller 211 mvp auto set. It is a mig gun and can be hooked up to shield gas as well and is spool gun ready for AL welding just need the spool gun and argon shield gas. It can be plugged into 110V or 220V just by changing out the plug. Easy to use just turn the dial to the material thickness and go. So far so good with it although i haven't done any hard core projects with it. I plan on gettin the spool gun soon so i can make an aluminum pirogue.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:33 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
I'd suggest a cracker box rig. You can get nice ones for a little over $300
Stick is a little harder to learn than mig, but its not bad. Get some scrap metal and start burning rods
Stick is a little harder to learn than mig, but its not bad. Get some scrap metal and start burning rods
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:37 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I would also suggest one of the auto darkening shields. That way your aren't constantly lifting and lowering your shield before you strike an arc. It helped out a novice like me tremendously.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:43 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Ive got a hobart handler very easy to use i think mine is a 220. Now I do alot of custom exhaust work so you might want the one a notch below. Check out tractor supply they normally have good deals.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:43 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Some stick rods are easier to weld with than others. You need to read up on them. The digits in each rod number represents something. (6010,6011,7018,7024 ect). Then there are the stainless rods, some are best for stainless to stainless and others stainless to carbon, they're pricey
First 2 digits represent tensile strength, third represents position (1 is all position) 4 represents position and or coating iirc.
One advantage to stick over mig and Tig is that you don't need gas. You can mig with self shield flux core but if you're teaching someone how to weld I would go with a good stick machine. A spider monkey can be taught to mig weld, you set the machine and pull the trigger.
First 2 digits represent tensile strength, third represents position (1 is all position) 4 represents position and or coating iirc.
One advantage to stick over mig and Tig is that you don't need gas. You can mig with self shield flux core but if you're teaching someone how to weld I would go with a good stick machine. A spider monkey can be taught to mig weld, you set the machine and pull the trigger.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:43 pm to bayoudude
quote:Same here. Very nice machine if the OP wants to spend $1500 getting it ready to weld
I have a miller 211 mvp auto set
Just get a Lincoln 225 and be done with it. Yeah stick is a little harder, but same basic principles. Build a table to get started. Watch YouTube videos for instructions. It's how I learned to MIG
I have an auto-darkening helmet from either harbor freight or northern tool that was like $50 shipped and only have problems when the sun is coming over the back of me. Solid, cheap helmet. Get some gloves from HD too
$60 Northern Tool helmet
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:49 pm to Hammertime
225 can be had with a free $620 torch set from Harris if purchased before June 30, or a weld pack that includes a burning jacket, auto dark hood and 50 pound box of rods. That's what I would recommend as well
Eta: that's the Lincoln ranger 225, not that eagle bullshite from home depot
Eta: that's the Lincoln ranger 225, not that eagle bullshite from home depot
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 3:54 pm
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