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Talked to Jeff Duncan Today Re: 1st Round Pick
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:13 pm
I randomly saw old Jazzy Jeff at the Zurich Classic golf tournament earlier today when I sat down for lunch and had a surprisingly nice conversation with him. I started by saying, "Shouldn't you be working today?" He laughed and said he had the day off. Anywho, we talked about how Vaccaro is a good pick, but not special. He does fill a huge need and add a new dimension, but it's not a flashy pass rusher as we would have liked. I told him how disappointed I was that the team passed up Jarvis Jones, and he said he wasn't surprised because Jones apparently has a terrible attitude and work ethic. He said he played only on game days and was a slouch at practice.
I came away impressed with my conversation with Jeff. Very nice, laid back guy. I'm not a fan of his, but it was pretty cool. This information helps me cope you guys. Cope with me.
I came away impressed with my conversation with Jeff. Very nice, laid back guy. I'm not a fan of his, but it was pretty cool. This information helps me cope you guys. Cope with me.
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:19 pm to Zoombop
bump because sue me
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:21 pm to Zoombop
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I told him how disappointed I was that the team passed up Jarvis Jones, and he said he wasn't surprised because Jones apparently has a terrible attitude and work ethic. He said he played only on game days and was a slouch at practice.
I am sure out Defense practiced really hard last year, and then laid eggs on gameday.
He apparently is good enough for the Steelers who are 100000X better at evaluating Defensive players than the saint.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:23 pm to Zoombop
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bump because sue me
I am absolutely convinced the Saints made the right decision in passing on Jones. We'll see how Vaccaro works out long term, but he definitely improves the D backfield.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:24 pm to SammyTiger
quote:And 28 sacks and 9 FF the last 2 years at UGA shows he was doing something right.
I am sure out Defense practiced really hard last year, and then laid eggs on gameday.
He apparently is good enough for the Steelers who are 100000X better at evaluating Defensive players than the saint.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:25 pm to Zoombop
I think everyone is trying to rationalize Vaccarro over Jones at this point
On 1 hand, Many had red flags and work ethic questions about the guy already... On the other hand, the Steelers (who know a thing or two about LB's and defense in general) pick him 2 spots later.
At the end of the day, Vaccarro is wearing black n GOLD, while Jarvis gets that ugly black n yellow... Whodat!
On 1 hand, Many had red flags and work ethic questions about the guy already... On the other hand, the Steelers (who know a thing or two about LB's and defense in general) pick him 2 spots later.
At the end of the day, Vaccarro is wearing black n GOLD, while Jarvis gets that ugly black n yellow... Whodat!
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:27 pm to AlexMSU
Should we hand out Handi Wipes so that all these guys with Steeler jizz on their chins can clean themselves up?
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:27 pm to Zoombop
All reasons why I keep saying Jones will be average at best. Piss poor against the run, doesn't work on his game physically or with the x's and o's, strictly skated by because of his size and natural talent and being on a good defense with good players. And he has that spine thingy.
Imo we got the better Georgia player in the 3rd. Big reason why Jones looked so good.
Imo we got the better Georgia player in the 3rd. Big reason why Jones looked so good.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:33 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Far from true. whodatfan(?) posted all the Steeler drafted LBs from the last 10ish years and they were all busts minus Woodley(looked like 15ish players).
He apparently is good enough for the Steelers who are 100000X better at evaluating Defensive players than the saint.
Maybe they are a good defense because of Dick Lebeau and his system? Just a thought.
And before anyone twists my knock on Jones by fabricating something about me trying to rationalize Vacarro:
First I've been saying we didn't need an OLB and would go top 3 LT, S, CB, or WR in the first. We really got S an NB with that pick.
Second, I've never said anything more than Vacarro is an upgrade over what we have(worst safety tandem in the NFL last year)and will be at least average(same as my projection for Jones). Definitely not saying(but I am hoping) he is a pro bowler.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:37 pm to Zoombop
Vaccaro will see PT this year.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:39 pm to Kcrad
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Vaccaro will see PT this year.
he better fricking start from day 1
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:47 pm to Kcrad
Barring injury, he'll start in some fashion, if not play more than half the snaps at the very least.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:51 pm to Zoombop
You were in Japan?
Posted on 4/26/13 at 10:55 pm to Hoodoo Man
Zurich Classic is in Avondale(my neighborhood growing up).
Unless I'm misunderstanding why you are asking if he was in Japan.
Unless I'm misunderstanding why you are asking if he was in Japan.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:01 pm to Zoombop
Sorry, I wouldn't waste my time or breath talking to that scum blowhard Duncan.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:25 pm to bonethug0108
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All reasons why I keep saying Jones will be average at best. Piss poor against the run, doesn't work on his game physically or with the x's and o's, strictly skated by because of his size and natural talent and being on a good defense with good players. And he has that spine thingy.
He is 6'2" 240. that isn't' exactly freak measurement that he can get away with only size. Its a joke to say that Jenkins was the better player. I am excited about Jenkins, but that is a joke.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:39 pm to SammyTiger
Work ethic matters when you're graduating from playing future accountants and car salesmen to the NFL.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:43 pm to SammyTiger
I said size and talent. The combination made him a good college player. Without the work ethic he will be another JRus(not saying his work ethic is that bad, but that is about the floor for poor work ethic).
And I think Jenkins made that whole D good. His presence right in the middle disrupted everything from the inside out. He was pulling the double teams and helping Jones not to have to take those on.
And I think Jenkins made that whole D good. His presence right in the middle disrupted everything from the inside out. He was pulling the double teams and helping Jones not to have to take those on.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:59 pm to Zoombop
they went with the safer pick. nothing wrong with that. it's the first round, and they wanted a guy they felt would produce and right away. the pick is a good one. 
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:59 pm to bonethug0108
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And I think Jenkins made that whole D good. His presence right in the middle disrupted everything from the inside out. He was pulling the double teams and helping Jones not to have to take those on.
you don't get 14.5 sacks and 13.5 sacks riding coattails. He also wasn't a full time starter in 2011, when Jarvis Jones had 13.5 sacks.
The saints needed to be bold and they went safe. Vaccaro's ceiling isn't anywhere near what JOnes' is.
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