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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:39 pm to DoUrden
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:39 pm to DoUrden
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The biggest problem I have is my fan cable length, the cooler came with a fan bank that helps, but the cords are just a little too short to run behind the board.
Yeah, fan cables almost always require extension cables for the best cable management. I used 3-way splitters since I have a fan controller, but regardless I would've needed extension cables to route them behind the motherboard.
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:51 pm to ILikeLSUToo
NTFS or FAT32 for my 1TB ?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:56 pm to Raz
NTFS. Otherwise you won't be able to store files larger than 4GB on it.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:56 pm to Raz
NTFS, I haven't used fat32 in years.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:07 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I wish you could OC GPUs with the nVidia software, that is one AMD feature I miss.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:34 pm to DoUrden
Why? Afterburner is superior
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:37 pm to bluebarracuda
Because someone like me who knows just enough to be dangerous having that much control is not good.
This I will try this setting out tonight.
LINK
This I will try this setting out tonight.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:41 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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This is almost identical to the build I suggested for you, except you inexplicably switched back to the single-channel, slower, more expensive RAM.
Wouldn't having the single channel RAM allow me the ability to more easily add more RAM in the future since it only takes up one slot, or do I have that wrong?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:36 pm to kingbob
You're better off getting 2x4 now and 2x4 in the future.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:56 pm to kingbob
Yeah, that motherboard has 4 DIMM slots. If you got 1 stick now and 1 stick later, there's no guarantee that you'd be able to find the exact model and therefore no guarantee that you could run them in dual channel later either. Dual channel is not necessarily better than single in gaming, but it does start to matter a little in 3D modeling and anything else that uses CPU and system memory heavily. The performance difference may still be negligible in many cases, but there's still absolutely no reason to pay more for both slower and single-channel RAM.
You will not need to upgrade to 32GB of RAM within the lifespan of that CPU/motherboard, and adding RAM doesn't make your computer faster if you don't actually use the RAM.
You will not need to upgrade to 32GB of RAM within the lifespan of that CPU/motherboard, and adding RAM doesn't make your computer faster if you don't actually use the RAM.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:35 pm to ILikeLSUToo
For some reason even with overclocking I can't break 20K on futuremark anymore and it's all on the GPU side. First time booting without changing a thing I scored over 20K, now when I go back to defaults I only get around 18k or a little better. 
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:51 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Anyone have any reason for me to upgrade to Windows 8? Or should I just stick with 7 for my new build?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:01 pm to DoUrden
Has your physics score changed?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:40 am to ILikeLSUToo
Hello there, everyone. It's been a while since I've posted in here. Unfortunately, my return is under poor circumstances - I've been dealing with some crashes, lately.
I'm a bit concerned that the issue might be the motherboard or PSU but, having not run any stress tests yet (coupled with my general lack of knowledge), I can't say that for certain.
Every crash begins the same way: suddenly, the cursor lags significantly behind mouse movement.
This quickly leads to one of two possible outcomes:
1. The screen freezes and sound loops indefinitely
2. The screen goes black and never comes back on
In both cases, the computer seems to be still running (lights remain on and fans continue to run), but the reset button must be pressed to resolve the issue.
After each reboot, everything seems to be fine (until the next crash, obviously); Windows seems to be unaware of any crash taking place (unless I'm looking in the wrong place for new dump files).
The only consistent factor (and possible catalyst) for these crashes has been that they've occurred while browsing the internet. It's possible that certain ads or web pages (using flash?), that are too taxing, are the cause. This lead me to believe that it might be an Nvidia driver issue, but I didn't update my drivers near the time of the first crash. Regardless, I did a clean installation (as always) of the latest drivers, but another crash occurred today.
I haven't played any games since the first crash (which didn't occur while playing a game), but I did run 3DMark today as a mild stress test (which didn't cause any problems/noticeable overheating).
Does anyone have any thoughts/recommendations? I plan on running some real stress tests soon, if I can remember how to properly make use of Prime95.
PC Specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770k
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO
GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 780
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4 - DDR3 1866MHz)
PSU: XFX Pro 850W Black Edition
ETA: Coincidentally or not, every crash that has occured has happened while simply perusing the internet. However, even if certain sites or ads are the cause (which I doubt), they don't seem to consistently trigger these crashes.
I'm a bit concerned that the issue might be the motherboard or PSU but, having not run any stress tests yet (coupled with my general lack of knowledge), I can't say that for certain.
Every crash begins the same way: suddenly, the cursor lags significantly behind mouse movement.
This quickly leads to one of two possible outcomes:
1. The screen freezes and sound loops indefinitely
2. The screen goes black and never comes back on
In both cases, the computer seems to be still running (lights remain on and fans continue to run), but the reset button must be pressed to resolve the issue.
After each reboot, everything seems to be fine (until the next crash, obviously); Windows seems to be unaware of any crash taking place (unless I'm looking in the wrong place for new dump files).
The only consistent factor (and possible catalyst) for these crashes has been that they've occurred while browsing the internet. It's possible that certain ads or web pages (using flash?), that are too taxing, are the cause. This lead me to believe that it might be an Nvidia driver issue, but I didn't update my drivers near the time of the first crash. Regardless, I did a clean installation (as always) of the latest drivers, but another crash occurred today.
I haven't played any games since the first crash (which didn't occur while playing a game), but I did run 3DMark today as a mild stress test (which didn't cause any problems/noticeable overheating).
Does anyone have any thoughts/recommendations? I plan on running some real stress tests soon, if I can remember how to properly make use of Prime95.
PC Specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770k
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO
GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 780
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4 - DDR3 1866MHz)
PSU: XFX Pro 850W Black Edition
ETA: Coincidentally or not, every crash that has occured has happened while simply perusing the internet. However, even if certain sites or ads are the cause (which I doubt), they don't seem to consistently trigger these crashes.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 5:01 am
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:27 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
Has your physics score changed?
It fluctuates just a little but on it run was slightly higher. The graphics score dropped from 29,6008K to around 24,500K.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:31 am to DoUrden
I need some OCing in my life
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:24 am to LSUTigerfaninHtown
quote:
1. The screen freezes and sound loops indefinitely
2. The screen goes black and never comes back on
Sounds video-cardish, but could just as easily be the motherboard.
For starters, did I help you overclock that 4770K? If so, you should go into your bios and reset everything back to stock so we can be sure it's nothing to do with a motherboard setting. If you can, save your bios settings as a profile before resetting.
If it still crashes, the next thing I'd do is try to temporarily get another nvidia card to see if the 780 was the problem.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:30 am to DoUrden
quote:
It fluctuates just a little but on it run was slightly higher. The graphics score dropped from 29,6008K to around 24,500K.
One thing that annoys me about these Maxwell cards is their overzealous focus on power consumption. When they hit their TDP limit, they automatically throttle, and it doesn't take much.
We could Skype or Steam chat one day and I could show you how to flash a custom bios to those cards that would enable higher power limits.
For now, do the following if you haven't already:
1. Download and install EVGA PrecisionX: LINK
2. Move the "Power Target" slider all the way to right.
3. On the right side of the window under "voltage," click "Kboost"
EDIT: nevermind on #3. Forgot you were doing SLI and kboost doesn't work on SLI. In that case, if you were using afterburner, you can continue to use it. Just make sure power target is all the way up even at stock.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:59 am to ILikeLSUToo
Moved the power target to 120% and the graphics score dropped to 23,567, moved it back to 100% and graphics score is 23,334.
As is I am scoring about 18,600 overall.
As is I am scoring about 18,600 overall.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:44 pm to DoUrden
Can you use OSD or some other tool to monitor your clock speed while benching? The difference in graphics scores between 23567 and 23334 is negligible enough to be standard deviation. It's the big drop from your initial benchmark run that is strange. Do you remember everything you did (software installed, bios settings changed, etc.) between that first benchmark run and the next one where your score was lower?
Also, make sure you run 3dMark11 "stretched" instead of "centered" (see Display Scaling Mode)
Also, make sure you run 3dMark11 "stretched" instead of "centered" (see Display Scaling Mode)
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