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Guess it depends on who you think has control.

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During the 1970s and 1980s, Whyte correlated locus of control with the academic success of students enrolled in higher-education courses. Students who were more internally controlled believed that hard work and focus would result in successful academic progress, and they performed better academically.

Those students who were identified as more externally controlled (believing that their future depended upon luck or fate) tended to have lower academic-performance levels. Cassandra B. Whyte researched how control tendency influenced behavioral outcomes in the academic realm by examining the effects of various modes of counseling on grade improvements and the locus of control of high-risk college students.


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The development of locus of control is associated with family style and resources, cultural stability and experiences with effort leading to reward.[citation needed]

Many internals have grown up with families modeling typical internal beliefs; these families emphasized effort, education, responsibility and thinking, and parents typically gave their children rewards they had promised them.

In contrast, externals are typically associated with lower socioeconomic status. Societies experiencing social unrest increase the expectancy of being out-of-control; therefore, people in such societies become more external.[34] The 1995 research of Schneewind suggests that "children in large single parent families headed by women are more likely to develop an external locus of control".[35][citation needed]

Schultz and Schultz also claim that children in families where parents have been supportive and consistent in discipline develop internal locus of control. At least one study has found that children whose parents had an external locus of control are more likely to attribute their successes and failures to external causes.[36]

Findings from early studies on the familial origins of locus of control were summarized by Lefcourt: "Warmth, supportiveness and parental encouragement seem to be essential for development of an internal locus".,[37] but causal evidence regarding how parental locus of control influences offspring locus of control (whether genetic, or environmentally mediated) is lacking. Locus of control becomes more internal with age. As children grow older, they gain skills which give them more control over their environment, however whether this, or biological development is responsible for changes in locus is unclear.






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Iona Fan Man
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hard work in a pyramid scheme is futile and success is up to chance for the most part.

And yes, I have ideas, great ones....but this is not the thread for each.

Explain to an average 18 year old what his future has in store for him as a "hard worker" and as a leach?

how much do you make as a leach vs how much you make as an average hard worker?

And please don't put down leaches, because adding more to the work force would only decrease average wage.



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You sound like a loser. Sucks to be you.





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almost 90% of you will have nothing really to show for 45 years of labor....but thanks for playing!!


You have a warped view of the meaning of life.






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What % of people that are 20 years out of college (mid career) with a high GPA from an top 200 school in an area that is in high demand make less than 100k?

You have to make smart choices. In order to get the boat and fast car you need to understand what job gets you a boat and fast car and work for it.

If you went to school and got a degree in history, did you really think it would enable you to get a job as a business executive?






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And yes, I have ideas, great ones...


Do you feel there is something about "the system" that is holding you back on these?






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You are truly eaten up to your core by envy clothed with the fact YOU haven't been successful as you desire.





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hard work in a pyramid scheme is futile and success is up to chance for the most part.


um OK? What does this have to do with "blazing trails"?

Although you are obviously trolling, I'll play along anyway. Answer my question:

You suggested "Blazing Trails" in lieu of the old paradigm of "hard work".

Please give me an example of some sort of lucrative trail blazing endeavor which does not require hard work. If you have so many great ideas ( ) you should be able to provide a short summary of at least one right?






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And yes, I have ideas, great ones



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FLEXPLOIT!!!






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Iona Fan Man
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Do you feel there is something about "the system" that is holding you back on these?


only thing holding me back is fear. I am more risk adverse, I don't want to ever be over extended....but to some that's the only way to fly.






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-87% of you will AT BEST live check to check with little to no savings and mired in debt.



that statistic is because too many choose to live that close to what they make. Like our government, the more you make the more you spend.








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hard work in a pyramid scheme is futile and success is up to chance for the most part.


Pathetic

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Explain to an average 18 year old what his future has in store for him as a "hard worker" and as a leach?


I don't think you understand what a hard worker is.

You probably are assuming some sort of hard labor, like in the 30's. Hard work also means school. Busting your arse in school, making good grades, getting into college, and choosing a degree that will further your life is an example of hard work. If you want to make money in life, then choose a career field that will make it so. Don't blame society when you get a degree in mass comm, poli sci, general studies, liberal arts, etc... and can't find a job paying 50k/year or more.

Go in engineering, medical, etc... Fields that you know have a future and everyone makes money as long as they are worth a shite.

Hell, go work in a plant or an oil field and you will make beaucoup money and don't even need a degree.

But you are right, if you don't work hard, then you will be a failure in all of your endeavors.






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hard work in a pyramid scheme is futile


Even as a troll, somehow I think you believe hard work is futile to success. I'll bet you convey that well at the poetry slam tonight.







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only thing holding me back is fear. I am more risk adverse, I don't want to ever be over extended....but to some that's the only way to fly.


This is true for most people and a large reason why most people will not (cannot?) be hugely successful.

I'm not sure how it jibes with the original suggestion in your OP, though.






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only thing holding me back is fear


Really?







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Kashonly;dr





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Iona Fan Man
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I think you believe hard work is futile to success.


absolutely, way too much stock is put into it. It's like saying studying determines how well you perform.....it makes marginal difference....some can just read it once and recite the info back to you....another must read, make not cards, cheat sheets(hard work)...but will they ever be as good as the natural?






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BugAC
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Kash

I'm risk adverse too. But i'm not crippled by fear so much, as i will not pass up good career opportunities. When i first graduated college, i moved around freely, going whereever my job took me. After about 3.5 years, i decided i wanted to stay in one place. I have now been settled in BR for nearly 5 years now, just bought a house in November, getting married in July. I am happy where i am, and i consider myself successful. Also, you must decide for yourself, what makes you happy. Does money make you happy? If so, then do what makes you the most money, no matter what. For me it's living comfortably and starting a family. And having a good work/life balance. I have achieved that so far, and hope to continue that, God willing, for the future.






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Hard work is futile to success? Okay big shooter just sit on your arse muddling through and guarantee your failure.





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Jim Rockford
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I think both sides unfairly discount the points of the other.

Unless you won life's lottery in one way or the other, you're not going to get anywhere without hard work, starting at an early age. Education/training matters, and attention to detail is important, in ways that aren't always apparent at the time.

By the same token, luck/good fortune matters. Get sick, have an accident, your company gets taken over and you lose your job, the economy turns south, etc, etc. All things that can negatively impact you that you have no control over. Most people, even those firmly in the middle class, are one or two bad breaks away from a major decline in their living standard.

And some people got where they are not through what they know or how hard they work, but what family they were born into, who they know, or their ability to schmooze.

I work hard, I got educated, and I take advantage of opportunities. At the same time, I'm damn lucky I was born into a family that taught me the right way, gave me opportunities growing up, and that I'm in good health. I have control over the former. I have little control over the latter.






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