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re: Official 2012 Best 9mm Semi Automatic Pistol Tourney WINNER pg 11

Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:21 pm to
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How do you even begin to say "i only need" without the knowledge of any scenario that you could be in?


Because statically I’m not going to be in very many scenarios, and this thread did not dedicate the tournament to one specific scenario or to say that it applies to any and all scenarios. I’m going to face a limit amount of opposition, no more than two, at five bullets each that’s probably all I’m going to need due to time. If the zombie apocalypse happens, or I get into a situation where I have to defend myself against multiple armed persons then yeah the Hi Point isn’t going to be the gun I want. I wouldn’t even want a pistol in this situation anyway. I based my choice off of two aspects. Price and Manufactured Location.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:28 pm to
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this thread did not dedicate the tournament to one specific scenario or to say that it applies to any and all scenarios.


number of bullets is relevant to the advantages of a gun. period.

quote:

I’m going to face a limit amount of opposition, no more than two, at five bullets each that’s probably all I’m going to need due to time.


You don't know this.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:33 pm to
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I based my choice off of two aspects. Price and Manufactured Location.


How about reliability, the hi pernt is anything but reliable.
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:35 pm to
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I’m going to face a limit amount of opposition, no more than two, at five bullets each that’s probably all I’m going to need due to time.


You don't know this.



This. That lady in Georgia hit a SINGLE intruder 6 times with a .38(?) and still didn't kill him. Good thing there wasn't 3 or 4 of them. This argument is usually used by 1911 fanatics.


I think the Nighthawk Predator may win this thing with all the 1911 lovers on this board...even though there are numerous guns in the competition I'd rather have with me in a "gun battle on the streets of America!!!!"
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:44 pm to
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I think the Nighthawk Predator may win this thing with all the 1911 lovers on this board


Believe it or not, I don't think the Nighthawk is the best 9mm in this tournament.

1911's in 9mm to me are gimmick guns. 1911's should be in .45 ACP (and occasionally 10mm).
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:45 pm to
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1911's in 9mm to me are gimmick guns. 1911's should be in .45 ACP (and occasionally 10mm).


:kige:
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:50 pm to
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That lady in Georgia hit a SINGLE intruder 6 times with a .38(?) and still didn't kill him


With that situation it wouldn't have made a difference if she had 6 or 10 bullets if there are 3+ people. Some situations are a lose/lose. If 6 shots will not kill someone then it doesn't matter how many people come in because your pistol is not going to cut it.

If I'm shooting at someone then I'm going to let the pistol do its thing. Recoil is going to want the gun to move up, and I'm going to allow it to do that. I'll start at center mass and work my way up the spine. Most people who get shot at aren't going to stick around for more, but if they do then I'm willing to continue shooting. If a group comes in then IDC if you have 16..it's not enough for 4:1
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:53 pm to
Btw: I'm just doing this for the sake of discussion. I'm playing devils advocate.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 6:31 pm to
9mm bumpity w 15 shots
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30696 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:00 pm to
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If I'm shooting at someone then I'm going to let the pistol do its thing. Recoil is going to want the gun to move up


FWIW, recoil doesnt want the gun to move up. Thats the way your elbows are. Rotate your elbows out and let the gun recoil straight back.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30696 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

North
1. Glock 17 vs 4. Ruger SR9
2. H&K P30 vs 3. Walther PPQ

South
1. Sig P2022 vs 4. Beretta 92
2. Browning HiPower vs 3. CZ 75B

East
1. Nighthawk Predator vs 4. Hi Point
2. H&K USP vs 3. H&K P2000

West
1. Sig P226 vs 4. CZ SP01 Phantom
2. Springfield XDM vs 3. Smith and Wesson M&P9



No Glock 19?

Glock 17 should win this easy with no 19.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18364 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:06 pm to
Glock
Sig 226
Beretta
S&W

If HK was 45 it would be higher

rest in any order except for Hi Pernt. Use that as your paint stirrer
Posted by Whitrabbt
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2009
437 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:31 pm to
North
1. Glock 17 vs 4. Ruger SR9
2. H&K P30 vs 3. Walther PPQ

South
1. Sig P2022 vs 4. Beretta 92
2. Browning HiPower vs 3. CZ 75B

East
1. Nighthawk Predator vs 4. Hi Point
2. H&K USP vs 3. H&K P2000

West
1. Sig P226 vs 4. CZ SP01 Phantom
2. Springfield XDM vs 3. Smith and Wesson M&P9
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Glock 17 should win this easy with no 19.


Fullsize only. And not a Chinaman's chance the glock 17 wins.
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18574 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:33 pm to
Ruger SR9
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:23 pm to
Full ballots only
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:25 pm to
North
1. Glock 17 vs 4. Ruger SR9
2. H&K P30 vs 3. Walther PPQ

South
1. Sig P2022 vs 4. Beretta 92
2. Browning HiPower vs 3. CZ 75B

East
1. Nighthawk Predator vs 4. Hi Point
2. H&K USP vs 3. H&K P2000

West
1. Sig P226 vs 4. CZ SP01 Phantom
2. Springfield XDM vs 3. Smith and Wesson M&P9
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

1. Nighthawk Predator vs 4. Hi Point


Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:28 pm to
I want some of the shite he's smokin
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:29 pm to
Read last few pages. I'm playing devils advocate on that one.
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